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    seem to be the slogan for the products that just made it to the top of my wish list.the most relevant one being the V MACHINE which apparently is all ready shipping. the product is comparable to a receptor, at a fraction of the cost yet by the looks of it still gets the job done. the v machine is the introductory product followed by the v-pedal:my fav but too expensive for me. and their flagship contender killer the v -rack.here's the official website
    http://www.smproaudio.com/produkte/v-machines.html

    here is their youtube page showing the V machine being used (with edrums) as the vst host being triggered by what looks like a td-3 or trigger i/o. http://www.youtube.com/user/VFXVMachine
    here's some more spottings http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sIPoOFgs2s
    and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9Whe...eature=related.

    im glad to see something like this for a second i i thought namm 09 was gonna suck but now i cant wait to see more videos from these guys.hopefully people that interview them at namm, ask them questions about it working with toontrack superior 2.0
    binary solo! 000001 0000011 0000111 0001111 (oh)
    000001 (oh oh) 0000011 (oh) 00000111 (one) 00001111
    come on sucker lick my battery.
    Boogie,boogie, Robo boogie!
    boogie, Robo boogie

  • #2
    I am interested in this as a Receptor Owner. I am just curious to see how easy it will be to get my plugins on the unit. The Receptor provides methods to install all my registered NI VSTis. It doesn't look that easy on the VMachine.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Michael Render View Post
      I am interested in this as a Receptor Owner. I am just curious to see how easy it will be to get my plugins on the unit. The Receptor provides methods to install all my registered NI VSTis. It doesn't look that easy on the VMachine.
      Man, re-registering NI plugins is a fate worse than death, especially when your music computer isn't online. Actually I think the VMachine has been around for a while, but I've never heard of anybody using one.

      Steve
      No more V-drums; all acoustics now.

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      • #4
        v-machine

        Hi,

        Around 3000 units have been shipped before the New Year,

        The most used post is the one on KVR.

        http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewto...7030&start=570

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        • #5
          I've seen that the ram is upgradeable and as far as hard drives can it use one of these.
          http://www.intel.com/design/flash/na...ream/index.htm
          it seems to me that good things are coming this new year. but i for one will join the battle when the dust settles.
          binary solo! 000001 0000011 0000111 0001111 (oh)
          000001 (oh oh) 0000011 (oh) 00000111 (one) 00001111
          come on sucker lick my battery.
          Boogie,boogie, Robo boogie!
          boogie, Robo boogie

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          • #6
            Can I use Emulator X3 and Superior 2.0 with it?
            Drumkat Turbo 4.5, Emulator X3, Superior 2.1, Roland Fantom XR, DTXtreme III, SPD-20 etc.......

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            • #7
              alexzeegreat,

              Thanks for moving this to a new thread. I should have done that myself so as not to hijack the other thread.

              I've seen that the ram is upgradeable and as far as hard drives can it use one of these.
              http://www.intel.com/design/flash/na...ream/index.htm
              I read that too and wondered about it. Unless, they allow you to break into the machine without voiding the warranty, I don't see how either of these upgrades would be possible. Also, replacing the internal hardrive would require an OS re-install. The onboard hardrive is probably just a small (1G) flash card -- enough to host the OS and any VST/VSTi dll's only. An external hardrive is possible through one of the USB ports though. You could use the one you linked to, however, I think that you would need to also use a an interface to USB to make it external...although, I am not sure why you would need such a big external hardrive for something like this that is just serving as a VST host.

              I hope that they show the units being used with some of the popular edrum VSTi's (Toontrack and/or BFD2 and/or Addictive Drums) 'cause then it would really drive this home for me.

              I was also thinking of building something similar using a Mini-ITX form-factor PC motherboard such as this http://www.intel.com/products/deskto...2-overview.htm but I have a lot of details to workout before I can begin but it would overcome the software registration issues that may exist in this unit.

              I look forward to hearing more about this unit.
              Dan

              Just found this on the KVR forum:
              It support 1 GB max. RAM
              DDR2 533Mhz (667 will likely work), 1.8 Volt, CL4 (CL5 will likely work), unbuffered, 200-pin SODIMM

              The V-Machine uses a 44 pin ATA100 IDE flash board.
              Last edited by lidrummer; 12-31-08, 11:28 AM.

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              • #8
                yea i head the same thought s a while back but then i hit a brick wall when it came to portability turns out theres some complications between the type of electricity a laptop uses and a pc. i rather have somethin that doesnt need to ne plugged in. but anyways that atom mothernoard orocesor is like the one in the new dell mini 9's (not that powerfull)

                if the v machine doesnt deliver i think ima diy a recptor they have videos on their website that shows you the inside of one and it's really no big deal its like a rackmount pc ,but with a laptop proccesor,
                the only thing that is very unique is the os or lack of their of (wait isnt it lynux)
                and , the user interface<screen) and knobs but i'm just a drummer not a syth guy.

                the more i think about it the more i wanna rip open my modules and a laptop to stick them in a prodject box together

                seriously though that atom is like a miny tx i dont think it could cut it for us but as a

                laptop it is awesome just for writing being on the web and messing with itunes but other than that i would not recommend it.


                hey if you ever figure out how to make a regular motherboard run on some type of battery let me know. because then not ony wold it be more reliable and practical but cheaper especialy because core 2 duo proccesors droped 40% in price due to the new i7
                binary solo! 000001 0000011 0000111 0001111 (oh)
                000001 (oh oh) 0000011 (oh) 00000111 (one) 00001111
                come on sucker lick my battery.
                Boogie,boogie, Robo boogie!
                boogie, Robo boogie

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                • #9
                  For just playing, not mixing or recording, I think the Atom processor with 2GB memory might be sufficient provided you have a good soundcard to take on the workload. The nice thing about the Atom is that you don't need a lot of power to run it.

                  I thought about your idea of combining your laptop and module together into a single unit. I was actually thinking of combining something like Megadrum and a computer together into a single unit. Megadrum can be powered off the USB bus and the computer can run off of very little power. You could probably even gut a decent laptop (instead of going the Atom route) for the computer end.

                  Dan

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by lidrummer View Post
                    For just playing, not mixing or recording, I think the Atom processor with 2GB memory might be sufficient provided you have a good soundcard to take on the workload. The nice thing about the Atom is that you don't need a lot of power to run it.

                    I thought about your idea of combining your laptop and module together into a single unit. I was actually thinking of combining something like Megadrum and a computer together into a single unit. Megadrum can be powered off the USB bus and the computer can run off of very little power. You could probably even gut a decent laptop (instead of going the Atom route) for the computer end.

                    Dan
                    yea i was going to give it a shot too but instead ima hold my breath for a laptop with intel i7. but heres a link with some good reviews on the atom and the even better nano ( avi ) http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?...hlbnRodXNpYXN0

                    that website and my maximum pc subscription keeps me from not being so noobish though theres no cure fore my affliction
                    binary solo! 000001 0000011 0000111 0001111 (oh)
                    000001 (oh oh) 0000011 (oh) 00000111 (one) 00001111
                    come on sucker lick my battery.
                    Boogie,boogie, Robo boogie!
                    boogie, Robo boogie

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                    • #11
                      i shied away from doing such a project but the more i think about it the more i want to give it a shot. it would be a dream to get my old pentium 4 mlb runnig toontrack superior 2.0 and solo without instaling a windows os (maybe just linux?)
                      with a 200 gb maxtor hd

                      thrown in some knobs and some of theese http://www.fpga4fun.com/TextLCDmodule.html
                      and maybe a small lcd touchscreen. that would work as a mini monitor. what stops me is the programing.
                      what ever i dont allready have laying around i'm sure i could find it here http://www.weirdstuff.com/

                      heres what the insides of a receptor look like http://www.museresearch.com/receptor-videos.php
                      amd here is s dude on another forum that wants to do the same http://revision3.com/forum/showthrea...oto=nextoldest

                      oce again let me know how you get around the os and the user interface

                      edit:here's some dudes that own a receptor and are foregoing diy motherboard upgrades http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/printv...208573&start=0
                      i think the big deal with owning a receptor is the uniwrie tech and the os / user interface but as far as raw power and practicality. it does not impress me im not s syth guru i dont want to plug in 5 midi keyboards and a some weird drum controllers i just want to play drums.

                      i wouldn't even plug my guitar or vocals into one im good with a boss metal zone and a vocal fx pedal
                      but to each his own...
                      Last edited by alexzeegreat; 01-09-09, 09:02 PM.
                      binary solo! 000001 0000011 0000111 0001111 (oh)
                      000001 (oh oh) 0000011 (oh) 00000111 (one) 00001111
                      come on sucker lick my battery.
                      Boogie,boogie, Robo boogie!
                      boogie, Robo boogie

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                      • #12
                        As to no OS, good luck! Linux will be a total pain in the arse (and its still an OS btw!) as the software is coded for Windows or Mac OS. I'm yet to find a reliable way to use VST plugins under linux as they are DLL based, which is a Windows thing. However, if you were to use something like nLite to make a cut-down version of XP, you should be fine. As for an interface, have you seen these: mini touch screen monitor?

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                        • #13
                          Hey thanks for the good links alex and ige87. I was thinking of trying some kind of slimmed down XP based system since as you guys have mentioned, the problems with using Linux with Windows based DLLs. I was also thinking along the lines of a small touch-screen LCD type of front-end interface -- perhaps something like a PDA (running Windows CE) to remotely login to the back-end (box).

                          I looked around the Receptor site a little and found that you can d/l their software. I don't know if it is the complete package or not but if so, one might be able to actually build one (using Linux) and avoid some of the headaches. I think I would need to find out what sound-card they use though.

                          Very good discussion and I hope it keeps going.

                          Dan

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                          • #14
                            Wheres the SW DL bit?

                            You should be able to use any soundcard, as long as you could get working linux drivers.

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                            • #15
                              Wheres the SW DL bit?
                              I haven't tried d/l'ing it but I think that this is it.
                              http://www.museresearch.com/updates.php

                              Dan

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