Which is less taxing on CPU, AD or SD2.0 ?

[jgermanich]

I want to play live with Addictive drums or Superior 2.0 on a computer. Which

would be less hungary for system resources.

[Pimenta]

Although I do not have Addictive drums, but from what I heard/read so far and the information in their website .. and also taking into consideration the size of ADs library ... it seems to be less system hungry than BFD2. Buuuuut..... if you utilize BFD2 in 16-bit.... with a moderate sized kit as in AD (four toms...hi-hat... ride.. thre cymbals)... reduce layers ... you will get around very well. Will you suffer in terms of sound/performance? Probably at the same level as with AD...but if down the road you wanna expand BFD has tons of sounds with very interesting expansion packs... just my 0.02 cents

Pim

[bakerboy]

Pimenta, did you mean S2.0 and not BFD2? He was asking about AD vs S2.0 I think.

But I think you're right in that AD will be less intensive on your system than S2.0. I briefly screwed around with AD before moving to S2.0 and it loaded pretty quick and didn't skip a beat when switching between samples and playing around with effects.

That being said, the same PC seems to run S2.0 without a hitch also. But I built it specifically for running S2.0, so there's no surprise it breezed through running AD.

I really liked some of the built-in kit presets in AD, actually. But overall S2.0 is definitely several steps above it in realism and sample quality.

[Gastric]

Out of the box AD is definitely less resource intensive than S2 but mostly RAM wise. S2 eats RAM for breakfast. With that said, my old P4 2.6GHz 3GB RAM Dell runs both fine.

Actually, I leave both running in Reaper in separate tracks and use different kits configured to different MIDI channels on my module to easily switch between them. Kit 12 runs S2, Kit 10 runs AD. For a while I was running AD for drums/cymbals but S2 for the hihat only since AD provides no multi-sample edrum hihat articulation. Both AD and S2 running uses a mere 15-20% of my CPU.

Unrelated, the real CPU killer is Amplitube. That thing crushes my computer. A single dual-amp track can eat up 50% of the CPU easily.

[jgermanich]

Can anyone recommend a good laptop that could easily handle AD or S2.0? I

really like Macs but not sure if they are up to the task. I have an Imac at

home with only 1.5 GB Ram and running at 2.16 Gz.

I'll still need a Roland FA-66 firewire box or a Presonus Firebox to get the

sound to my keyboard amps.

[Pimenta]

Pimenta, did you mean S2.0 and not BFD2? He was asking about AD vs S2.0 I think.

OOps my bad... but the principle is the same: 16 bit ... reduce amount of layers and bleeds ...


Pim

[hcantu]

look at my gear info on the bottom.......
With that I can run fine AD, and S2.0 eats more RAM than AD because if I added a effect or instrument on S2.0, it swallowed all my RAM completely.

I think you are fine with what you have.

[PlatinumSamples]

The difference is that AD uses MP3 type compression and has no bleed. S2 (and BFD) has full 24 bit audio with full bleed (available) and much higher velocity layer count. The latter therefore use more RAM.

Rail

[Relayer]

Hmm - interesting, Rail. According to XLN, AD's compression method is proprietary and "virtually" lossless. IMO, they don't sound brickwalled like MP3's. In any case, the samples are recorded at 24/96 - what they end up on playback is anyone's guess.

Steve

[Rewind]

AD of course. Its lightening fast, even on my old laptop. But maybe a bit outdated? It sounds a bit thinn nowadays.

Superior drums 2 has wonderful cymbals, but sounds very artificial on everything else. BFD 2 is the way to go. Buy a new computer. I don't have any problems with it.

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¤ Intel Quad9300 2,5 GHz @ 3.3 GHz at 52 degrees Celsius full load. Thermalright Extreme 120 CPU cooler with a silent 1100 rpm Noctua fan attached to it.
¤ 4 GB Corsair PC2-8500
¤ Asus P45 motherboard
¤ Lynx L22 soundcard

Studio:
¤ TD-6V with DIY meshheads
¤ Studio Projects VTB-1 Preamp
¤ Epiphone bass
¤ J&D Fender copy
¤ AKG 271S headphones
¤ Rolls Headphone Amp
¤ CME UF5 midi keyboard

[Relayer]

AD of course. Its lightening fast, even on my old laptop. But maybe a bit outdated? It sounds a bit thinn nowadays.

I have to say the snares and kicks are indeed a bit thin on AD. But I use a plugin called the TLS Saturated Driver on them. It's freeware and you can just google for it. It really adds some punch and presence to the sound.

Superior drums 2 has wonderful cymbals, but sounds very artificial on everything else.

Careful, you'll get struck dead around here. Yeah, the S2 bandwagon is not as full at other forums as it is here. One guy said of the NY Avatar thingy that you get two kits - "stadium rock" and "stadium rock-ish". I think people owe it to themselves to at least demo BFD2 or even AD before investing in S2. Besides, you can never have enough good drum samples.

Steve

[jrcel]

S2 is great, fast low latency and the sounds are flawless. The demo's are crap, live in the flesh they are smokin'.

[hcantu]

Okay...I have now both AD and S2.0 on my laptop.
AD (plus the host) makes the RAM go all the way to 1.06 GB, and Superior makes it go to 1.35 GB. (Take in ocnsideration that just Windoes Vista alone takes about 600 MB).

Then, I opened both AD and Superior, and the RAM went all the way to 1.75 GB. This means that anyone would be fine with 2 GB of RAM, even playing both at the same time.

[Joe_K]

FYI, the S2.0 samples are 24-bit, but there is a button on the interface to load them as 16-bit and this can save significant RAM. Just depends if you are satisfied with 16-bit ... which I am for jamming and live play. My kits tend to stay at or under 800MB at 16-bit (and are largish ... 4 toms, 11 cymbals) with the most noticeable mic bleeds enabled.