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  • TD-3 and Superior 2.o setup?

    Hi all, I just got the crossgrade from EZDrummer to Superior 2.0 and I am having trouble setting some things up. Mostly the hi-hat and cymbals. I tried to read up on this forum and toontracks but I can only find a few things on hi-hats and cymbals if you have the more high end Roland stuff. Anyone know where I can find help setting up my hi-hats and cymbals with my TD-3 and Superior 2?

    Thanks.
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  • #2
    The instructions for the VH-11 hihats will work for the CY5 as well. I followed them and was able to get my CY-5 working.

    Adam

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    • #3
      Thanks Adam. Can you tell me where you found the setup you used?
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      • #4
        It's in the original Superior 2.0 posting a few thread's down from this one.
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        • #5
          I looked through that and only found a post saying that a detailed setup was posted on the toontrack page, but I cannot find it on the toontrack page. Any idea where on the toontrack page is?
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          • #6
            I use a VH-11 with a TD-10. These are the steps I followed to get HiHats working really well while instantiated within Sonar as a plugin (vs. running in Toontrack Solo):


            1. Create and Load Superior 2.0 in my Sonar project from the default "N.Y. - Avatar" state.

            2. Right click the HiHat to select it.

            3. In the "Instrument" Pane (lower right hand corner), go through each Articulation one-by-one and press "remove" to completely clear out all default assignments. (most articulations have multiple assignments, so clear them all out. Doing this step ensures that there are no unanticipated HiHat events)

            4. Play my VH-11 and exercise the pedal. Verify that Superior 2.0 triggers absolutely no sounds.

            5. Mapping the pedal controller: Choose the "hatsCtrl"' articulation. Type 'CC4' in the Key field and press enter.

            6. Mapping the Open edge zone: Choose the "hatsTrig" articulation. Leave the HiHat pedal open completely. Press "Learn". Strike the edge of the HiHat with stick. Should result in a mapped Key of ''D0". (or if you are viewing MIDI Notes as Numbers: 26)

            7. Mapping the Open bow zone: Choose the "hatsTipTrig" articulation. Leave the HiHat pedal open completely. Press "Learn". Strike the bow of the HiHat with stick. Should result in a mapped Key of "A#1". (or if you are viewing MIDI Notes as Numbers: 46)


            That gets me the full range of Open sounds while playing the hats and using the pedal. Now for the Closed Edge and Bow sounds, foot chick and foot splash.

            8. Mapping the Closed edge zone: Choose the "hatsTrig" articulation. Step on the HiHat pedal to close it (important: do that before you Press "Learn"). Press "Learn". Strike the edge of the HiHat with stick. Should result in an additional mapped key of "A#-1" to the "hatsTrig" articulation. (or if you are viewing MIDI Notes as Numbers: 22). You can view all mapped keys to an articulation by right clicking in the Key field.

            9. Mapping the Closed bow zone: Choose the "hatsTipTrig" articulation. Step on the HiHat pedal to close it (important: do that before you Press "Learn"). Press "Learn". Strike the bow of the HiHat with stick. Should result in an additional mapped key of "F#1" to the "hatsTipTrig" field. (or if you are viewing MIDI Notes as Numbers: 42)

            10. Mapping the Foot chick and Foot splash: Choose the "Closed Pedal" articulation. With the HiHat open, press "Learn". Step on the HiHat to close it. Should result in a mapped key of "G#1". (or if you are viewing MIDI Notes as Numbers: 44)


            Some final notes: The TD-10/VH-11 combo does not have "pressure sensing" on the HiHat to obtain Tight sounds by pressing the pedal harder. But the Tight articulation is being used with the pedal closed normally. If you desire just the Closed articulation sounds in that position, you can map the notes from steps 8 and 9 above to the "Closed" and "ClosedTip" articulations respectively. You will no longer access "Tight" sounds.

            If you like the way your HiHat is working, Save your MIDI Preset now so that you have a starting point to load just the HiHat (it requires the most tweaking, the rest of the kit is quick and easy to map with the "learn" feature).
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            • #7
              Wow. Thanks for the detailed help! I will give it a try tomorrow after work.

              Thanks again,

              John
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              • #8
                Thanks to Joe for that, I had it saved under a Word document. =0)
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                • #9
                  Thanks again Adam...and Joe. I went through the steps last night and the hi-hats work much better than before. I so still have a couple questions though. Are the Open 1, 2, 3, etc. for other types of hi-hats? Also, I thought I would be able to do similar things with the cymbals, but I only found "crash and mute" in the articulations. I thought there might be "bow, edge, choke" or something of the like. I was not able to set up the crash cymbals very well. do you have any tips for setting up cymbals?

                  Thanks again.
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