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  • HiHat Pedal for a Session Pro / Medeli

    Hi all, hoping for some help here please.... I have a Session Pro without a HiHat pedal & trying to put something together for a beginner in the family :-) The module has a 3 pole jack & I was thinking the pedal is one of those generic ones in black with the "flame effect" on the foot plate? But don't they normally use a 2 pole / mono jack? I've tried various ways of connecting up an open/close switch but not getting good results. I saw one in pieces on a website & it seemed to have a capacitor in the pedal as well & may 1 or 2 resistors? So... how does it work then? and/or what do I need to get it going please as I don't want to buy one of the above pedals if it won't work... (tried FD-8 & VH-11 too :-( Any help much appreciated! Thanks.....
    TD-15, 4 x Mesh, KD-9, VH-11, 2 x CY12RC, 1 x CY13. Amplification is an SR-Technology "Pocket Rocket" sub & satellite 1400 watt system :-)

  • #2
    No Idea of the answer to this - just bumping in-case someone else does. Sounds like your best bet might be to pick up one of those generic flame hi-hat pedals. Unless you have it sorted? If so, what was the solution?

    The Flame ones are certainly what I always see it with - http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...ZL._SX385_.jpg
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    West London, UK.
    TD-11 module | DTXplorer rack | 3 x tp65 | 12" millenuim mesh head snare | cy-5, pcy65s and pcy150 cymbals | fd8 hh | krigg kick trigger w/ mapex raptor pedal.

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    • #3
      The generic 'flame' hihat pedals are sold (amongst others) by Thomann, under their 'Millenium' brand.
      They are a non-variable, switch-type controller-pedal, mostly intended for lower-end Alesis modules, which use a 'switch controller' pedal for their hihat, rather than 'variable controller' pedals used by Roland and Yamaha.

      http://www.thomann.de/gb/millenium_hihat_controller.htm


      Roland and Yamaha pedals, by the way, are NOT interchangeable. They are indeed both variable controllers, but the Roland controllers have reversed polarity, I believe.


      I can't comment specifically on Medeli units, sorry.


      HTH
      Last edited by hairmetal-81; 12-19-13, 05:11 PM.


      "My best friends' name is J-SON. They used to call him 'Mr. Parse.' He has an 'Error'..!"

      http://www.vdrums.com/forum/core/cus...ar33631_4.jpeg

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      • #4
        TD-15, 4 x Mesh, KD-9, VH-11, 2 x CY12RC, 1 x CY13. Amplification is an SR-Technology "Pocket Rocket" sub & satellite 1400 watt system :-)

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        • #5
          Would be double annoying if not all were the same and you bought one which didn't work. The millenuim drum one on thomman suggests it is just an on/off switch - no middle ground so may not work with your 505. Same goes for the 501 pedal, maybe the 505 is special and has some unique pedal?
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          West London, UK.
          TD-11 module | DTXplorer rack | 3 x tp65 | 12" millenuim mesh head snare | cy-5, pcy65s and pcy150 cymbals | fd8 hh | krigg kick trigger w/ mapex raptor pedal.

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          • #6
            If all else fails: Spring for a used complete Roland TD-4 kit! ....it will be a monetary stretch, but you will thank me later!


            "My best friends' name is J-SON. They used to call him 'Mr. Parse.' He has an 'Error'..!"

            http://www.vdrums.com/forum/core/cus...ar33631_4.jpeg

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            • #7
              Just spotted an advert on Amazon uk which says of the DD505 "Hi-Hat Control Pedal With Half Open Feature" - picture looks the same though..... looks like there are (at least) 2 types of pedals out there for these type of kits - the basic switch type for open & closed sounds on a DD502 & some kind of variable type that allows half open (variations in between?) on a DD505 & uses all 3 connections of the TRS / 3 way jack - mmmmm getting closer :-)
              TD-15, 4 x Mesh, KD-9, VH-11, 2 x CY12RC, 1 x CY13. Amplification is an SR-Technology "Pocket Rocket" sub & satellite 1400 watt system :-)

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              • #8
                Yeah, certainly sounds more and more likely the 505 has its own, unique and proprietary way of having a half open sound (probably only one rather than graduated).

                might turn out to be using the same tech as the 2box hihat!!
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                West London, UK.
                TD-11 module | DTXplorer rack | 3 x tp65 | 12" millenuim mesh head snare | cy-5, pcy65s and pcy150 cymbals | fd8 hh | krigg kick trigger w/ mapex raptor pedal.

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                • #9
                  It is a bit annoying that every manufacturer does hi hat pedals differently though.
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                  West London, UK.
                  TD-11 module | DTXplorer rack | 3 x tp65 | 12" millenuim mesh head snare | cy-5, pcy65s and pcy150 cymbals | fd8 hh | krigg kick trigger w/ mapex raptor pedal.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cheddies View Post
                    might turn out to be using the same tech as the 2box hihat!!




                    NO WAY! - If this happens, hell will freeze over!


                    Professional quality on one side, chinese Medeli on the other... anything else will be a blatant rip-off!


                    "My best friends' name is J-SON. They used to call him 'Mr. Parse.' He has an 'Error'..!"

                    http://www.vdrums.com/forum/core/cus...ar33631_4.jpeg

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                    • #11
                      TIP to SLEEVE
                      Fully Up = Open Circuit (i.e. greater than 40MOhms)
                      1st Stage = 355KOhms (i.e. light pressure until the reading changed)
                      2nd Stage = 207KOhms
                      3rd Stage = 160KOhms
                      4th Stage = 150KOhms (i.e. fully down)

                      RING to SLEEVE
                      Fully Up = Open Circuit (i.e. greater than 40MOhms)
                      1st Stage = 206KOhms (i.e. light pressure until the reading changed)
                      2nd Stage = 58KOhms
                      3rd Stage = 11KOhms
                      4thth
                      TD-15, 4 x Mesh, KD-9, VH-11, 2 x CY12RC, 1 x CY13. Amplification is an SR-Technology "Pocket Rocket" sub & satellite 1400 watt system :-)

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                      • #12
                        Great write up Baz, I just came across this and it's exactly what I needed as I was just scratching my head over the same issue. I robbed the input board and connectors from a junk 505 unit to fix a faulty 502 and couldn't fathom a method to get any of my four available hh pedals to trigger. Now I know! Cheers

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