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**drumlogic** · 02-18-02, 10:40 PM

very intersting, thanx for the info szvook.

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-Drumlogic, V-session, Visulite/roland cymbals, (2)Mackie srm-450's, bbe 482 sonic maximizer,

**Arriguy** · 02-20-02, 08:42 AM

Bobby Nathan's

Keyboard Magazine "In The Studio"

Article # 18

Using Noise Gates with Keyboards.

by Bobby Nathan
http://members.aol.com/uniquenyc/key18.htm

Dude I would have thought you'd have learned your lesson about taking credit for other people's work by now. Sad really.

**Schmunk** · 02-20-02, 09:58 AM

Well, it's not Schmunk...

**Boingo** · 02-20-02, 10:51 AM

I gotta say that when I first read it, I assumed this came from a book and not from Steve. It was so obvious to me I assumed he wasn't taking credit for it. However, some quotes and a footnote certainly are in order for something of this magnitude. What we gonna do wit ya Szvook?

**digitsone** · 02-20-02, 02:21 PM

amazing. i was pretty sure the girlfriend and the powder thing were both total BS but i'm relieved to know that everything he's been spewing about gear is farcical. i don't know much about that stuff but most of what he's been saying hasn't added up against the small amount i do know.

thanks for the expose.

**szvook** · 02-20-02, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by Boingo:
I gotta say that when I first read it, I assumed this came from a book and not from Steve. It was so obvious to me I assumed he wasn't taking credit for it. However, some quotes and a footnote certainly are in order for something of this magnitude. What we gonna do wit ya Szvook?

**digitsone** · 02-20-02, 03:04 PM

here's an important lesson for you szvook - when you quote something you are required to attribute that quote to the source. when you just put some text in a quote you imply that you are quoting yourself.

personally, i think you have delusions of grandeur and take everyone on this board for a moron. and of behalf of the v-drums crew, i say, most of may be but thankfully some of us (jude, arriguy, hans, others) aren't!

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**Boingo** · 02-20-02, 03:20 PM

cyberspace....... Don't ya just love it.

For the last week, I would lurk on, I mean log on to the site and get really disappointed. You've seen those really exciting posts, like... what do you clean your heads with, has anyone ever thought about triggering rythmn travelers, do you wear shoes when you play drums... complete with more detail than you'd ever want to know. I was going into a depression. I was getting to the point where an addict starts to lose his craving for the next fix. I thought, maybe I won't log on today. Ya know what I'm sayin?

Today, was different. I got my fix! Thanks dudes and dudettes.

**digitsone** · 02-20-02, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by c. jude:
And for the record, I don't think szvook is intentionally trying to cheat anyone ...

i guess it depends how you define "cheat." in the creative game, claiming other people's words and ideas as your own definitely constitutes cheating in my book. i agree though that it is not done for much more then a clear and sad need to cultivate cyberprops by acting like a bigshot constantly.

Originally posted by c. jude:
... Also for the record, I never said that szvook doesn't know anything about gear ....

it may be that he does know something about gear but you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who has read the recent days' posts and will pay him any mind at all on most topics.

so sad.

**Steveo the Devo** · 02-21-02, 05:07 AM

I guess that you may have to 'rebirth' yourself after this one Szvook. A pity, I think you added a bit of spice to this place.
I guess your only claim to fame left standing is your relationship with Peter Hart. Or is that something else you would like to 'come clean' on?
See ya

**GRRAVEE** · 02-21-02, 09:29 PM

the girlfriend thing?missed that one

**drumlogic** · 02-21-02, 10:01 PM

Hhhmmmmmmmmm.....

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**suuntov** · 02-21-02, 11:41 PM

Some of you dudes have no sense of humor...

I'm sure that Szvook is a cool guy, just a little crazy sometimes... Sounds just like me.

Go practice on your "V's" instead of getting your panties all knotted up over Szvook.

Jesus, enough already !!

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**johnrox** · 02-22-02, 03:16 AM

Originally posted by suuntov:
Some of you dudes have no sense of humor...

I'm sure that Szvook is a cool guy, just a little crazy sometimes... Sounds just like me.

[This message has been edited by suuntov (edited February 21, 2002).]

Well...

As the one who fired the first shot of this cute little flame war over at the ddrums board, hopefully this will be my last post on the subject.

I like to think I have a pretty decent sense of humor. That's part of the reason I still lurk on these two forums. Of all the music forums I go to, I enjoy here and the ddrums board the most 'cause they're some funny m*therf*ckers roaming this land (even if the dutch humor can very dry).

But even more than that, is the incredible knowledge base. Even most of the newbies seem to have a better sense than most. Who would have thought from a bunch of drummers! This might be because electronic drums cost so damn much. If you want to know something about electronic drums these two boards are probably the best resource on the whole planet. And we are lucky to have it.

Comments about "Lars Ulrich's time-keeping abilities" or "Britney Spears' mysterious changing bust size" are one thing. Hell, I've laughed at some of Szvook's more outrageous claims ( like the girlfriend thing).

But there's a line. Making music is hard enough, but to have someone take your music and claim it as their own? That's grounds for a Vic Firth 5B up the pooper! And Szvook did that. And people forgave him. And I didn't say anything. And time went by, and he would make the occasional ridiculous statements, and the occasional post to stir things up, and mix generally useful information on equipment with some half truths and even completely false statements. And I didn't say anything. And then he moved his little show over to the ddrum forum. And that was it for me.

Rob Van Putten asks for some advice on compression. And Szvook starts in with his "I know better than you do attitude" backed up with half correct information. I got to thinking about how people rely on the information they get here to make important decisions about the gear they buy (especially for ddrums because you can't demo them anywhere). So I finally called his bluff. And then Arriguy and Kildrum expose yet another blatant theft of someone elses work! Unf*ckingbelieveable!

When I challenged Szvook in the General section some people pointed out my low post count and asked "well what have you contributed?" Well generally when I've had something to say, somebody has already said it and said it better. So I keep my mouth shut. But not this time. And if pulling some of the crap that Szvook has is considered "funny" or "making a meaningful contribution" than count me out. Szvook has provided a lot of people (including me) with some good advice. Just remember, it probably wasn't his.

Johnny

P.S.

Arriguy- "Early bird catches the szvook."

NOW THAT'S FUNNY!

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