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  • NO HOT SPOTS ???

    Originally posted by feefer:
    Hi all,

    Gotta chime in with my $0.02 here:

    There are NO hot spots with a properly-adjusted pad and TD module.

    Unfortunately, there are alot of improperly-adjusted pads and modules out there.

    Chris

    Chris are you referring to the dramatic volume increase when striking the area of the blue cone? Or have I misinterpreted?

    thnx,
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  • #2
    I was intrigued by this post as well... I think my V's are well adjusted and tuned... I still get spikes in the center of the heads... I have learned to use them musically though...

    rus

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    • #3
      Feef,

      Not pissed... that's what I look like when I ROCK!

      I don't get a MASSIVE spike or anything, but it is louder in the center of the head (over the trigger). So I guess what I call hot spot you call dynamic spread... cool. It's nice to know I'm well adjusted... or, erm... something.

      rus

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      • #4
        Originally posted by feefer:
        Yes, a hot spot predominantly results from an improper scan time setting. Play off-axis (about 1/2 way between the piezo and rim) while you fiddle with PD-120's scan time setting and you'll see/hear what I mean.
        As you wrote yourself, the hot spots are present when you play right in the centre of the drum pad. That's the place where the trigger is. And in fact you're beating the trigger right on his head. Auwww ...

        Ofcourse, when playing more near the rim you no longer touch the trigger rightaway and the distance between to the point where the trigger is, will be larger. But what scan time has to do with this ...
        Robert

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        • #5
          I've tried two things that have helped. One, I've focused more on controlling my strike. This is probably "more correct" (whattttt?) drumming.

          Also, I've noticed that different snare patches are affected differently by the hot spot. Some seem to be less sensitive.
          WMP


          (Weapon of Mass Percussion)

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          • #6
            Off Topic: So where is Brownsburg, matts64?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by feefer:
              I define a "hot spot" as an exaggerated response in the center, with a rapid drop-off while playing away from the center.

              Yes, a hot spot predominantly results from an improper scan time setting.

              Chris
              So what's the consensus? Are there a lot of you who think you have an exaggerated response in the center (and consider it a problem because you have never touched your scan settings)?

              Or are most folks happy with the balance from center to edge?

              I have one or two snares that seem to have a pronounced hot spot. Big difference in the sound depending on velocity of hit. I attribute to the way Roland programmed that particular snare. The others taste great and are less filling.

              I have played on three different V-pro's locally. There seems to be slight differences between brains. Some have this type of problem while the others are fine. Hence, my curiosity on this issue.
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              • #8
                Alexander:

                Brownsburg is about 15 minutes west of Indianapolis. I will be in San Francisco at the end of the month. I'm looking forward to the visit. Are you playing out anywhere?

                Cheers,

                MattS
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                • #9
                  Proper head tension also makes a difference. I would guess the brains are less to blame than the tension.

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                  • #10
                    The pads are to blame in combination with the trigger settings. As you probably know I don't play the original ddrum pads (I played them at several stores and they have no hot spots at all).

                    But I play SIB Systems drumpads. These pads also have hot spots. Perhaps because the foam is weaker than the original ddrum pads. The ddrum4 brain - ofcourse - is fine tuned for the ddrum pads, but when I choose the mesh head trigger settings inside this brain the hot spots become weaker. Together with a proper head tension and not playing in the centra (where the piezo is) I can live with it.

                    Well, in fact, I must live with it
                    Robert

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                    • #11
                      No one says WHAT they set scan time to.

                      I use .2 or .3 to keep my snare less prone to that full-on splat that center-hitting gives.

                      Each setting is a compromise, though. It takes away from something else.

                      There's no way to correct this, yet, outside of AVOIDING the spot.

                      I don't avoid any spots to that degree on acoustics. If you can say your V-pad is free of this, then mine are broken, and so are scores of other sets, evidently.

                      Someday soon a radically new transducer will arise (maybe from one of us!), and the next step in e-drumming will await us.

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