Maybe old news to some but,
I've been experimenting, and heres what I've found regarding how the TD10 works with FSR\piezo triggers?
Setup: I'm using a PD100 with a trigger type set to "crB". Then, plugged into the TD10 tom1 input, is a Y cable that splits up the TIP and SLEEVE (PIEZO and FSR) of a standard stereo cable. The 1\4" TIP portion of the Y cable is plugged into my PD100 (piezo signal). The 1\4" SLEEVE cable (FSR signal) is simply sitting on the head of the PD100....
I then created a switch by wrapping a wire around the tip end of the SLEEVE cable that I could short to the GROUND of the same cable.
So if I tap on the wire so it contacts ground, the TD10 thinks an FSR was just shorted AND, since the plug that I'm tapping is sitting on the PD100, the PD100's Piezo is also triggered at the same time which now triggers a RIM sound. Cool...two Pads\Sounds per input!
So in short...
1. For a Rim sound to occur:
The TD10 expects to sense an instantaneous closed, then opened switch from the "sleeve" of a stereo cable (FSR being struck). If this happens then the piezo signal("tip" of stereo cable) triggers a RIM sound.
2. If the FSR or switch is closed for more than an instantaneous time, then all notes are turned off until struck again...choked
BTW: The only place I can find a real FSR (force sensitive Resistor) is at http://www.interlinkelec.com/ . They sell an FSR kit which has 16 assorted FSR's for $80 .
Can anyone give me info about building the "virtual" FSR switch that I've read about in this forum?
V-CYMBAL DISECTION: I dis-assembled my V-cymbal and was suprised at how simple the constructed was. All I saw was two RIM FSR's (strike and choke) and one Piezo connected to a stereo jack.
I also took a look at the ride cymbal.
It was the same except it had one more FSR around the Bell which was then covered by an upside down plastic bowl, in the shape of the bell, when you hit the plastic bell, the bowls "Rim" touch the round FSR and tells the TD10 to play a Bell sound.
NOW I KNOW WHY SOME OF OUR BELLS ARE HARD TO TRIGGER, THE GAP BETWEEN THE BOWLS RIMS AND THE FSR IS TO BIG....
TRY THIS!
SIMPLY PRESS DOWN ON YOUR BELL AND TAP THE BELL, YOU CAN TRIGGER IT WITH SOFT TAPS. IF YOU PRESS TO HARD YOU'LL CHOKE THE CYMBAL AS EXPECTED.
Not sure how to fix the Bell issue...yet.
See ya
Bill
I've been experimenting, and heres what I've found regarding how the TD10 works with FSR\piezo triggers?
Setup: I'm using a PD100 with a trigger type set to "crB". Then, plugged into the TD10 tom1 input, is a Y cable that splits up the TIP and SLEEVE (PIEZO and FSR) of a standard stereo cable. The 1\4" TIP portion of the Y cable is plugged into my PD100 (piezo signal). The 1\4" SLEEVE cable (FSR signal) is simply sitting on the head of the PD100....
I then created a switch by wrapping a wire around the tip end of the SLEEVE cable that I could short to the GROUND of the same cable.
So if I tap on the wire so it contacts ground, the TD10 thinks an FSR was just shorted AND, since the plug that I'm tapping is sitting on the PD100, the PD100's Piezo is also triggered at the same time which now triggers a RIM sound. Cool...two Pads\Sounds per input!
So in short...
1. For a Rim sound to occur:
The TD10 expects to sense an instantaneous closed, then opened switch from the "sleeve" of a stereo cable (FSR being struck). If this happens then the piezo signal("tip" of stereo cable) triggers a RIM sound.
2. If the FSR or switch is closed for more than an instantaneous time, then all notes are turned off until struck again...choked
BTW: The only place I can find a real FSR (force sensitive Resistor) is at http://www.interlinkelec.com/ . They sell an FSR kit which has 16 assorted FSR's for $80 .
Can anyone give me info about building the "virtual" FSR switch that I've read about in this forum?
V-CYMBAL DISECTION: I dis-assembled my V-cymbal and was suprised at how simple the constructed was. All I saw was two RIM FSR's (strike and choke) and one Piezo connected to a stereo jack.
I also took a look at the ride cymbal.
It was the same except it had one more FSR around the Bell which was then covered by an upside down plastic bowl, in the shape of the bell, when you hit the plastic bell, the bowls "Rim" touch the round FSR and tells the TD10 to play a Bell sound.
NOW I KNOW WHY SOME OF OUR BELLS ARE HARD TO TRIGGER, THE GAP BETWEEN THE BOWLS RIMS AND THE FSR IS TO BIG....
TRY THIS!
SIMPLY PRESS DOWN ON YOUR BELL AND TAP THE BELL, YOU CAN TRIGGER IT WITH SOFT TAPS. IF YOU PRESS TO HARD YOU'LL CHOKE THE CYMBAL AS EXPECTED.
Not sure how to fix the Bell issue...yet.
See ya
Bill
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