hihat workings

[wforl]

Hi,

I was just wondering if theres anyway of linking up the hardness of a stroke with the foot height of the hi hat.

Basically, im a wheelchair user, and have no use of my legs, and am currently using an open hi-hit pad, and a closed hi-hat pad.

But was wondering if i could somehow get more use out of the closed hi hat pad, by having hard hits be outputed as swashy/open sounds and soft hits as closed sounds.

Is this possible?

I currently have a TD-8, but wouldn't mind upgrading if it is featured on higher models.

Thanks for reading,

[daveybabes]

Hi

Hi

I think u need a velocity sensitive trigger of some sort like maybe one of these sampler pads ...

http://www.electronicdrums.com/frames/controllers.htm

Or hooking one of your pads up via midi to something like EZ Drummer, so if a number of samples are applied to a pad going from closed hi hat to open and launched when the velocity strike force gets to a certain level to give the full controll.

I'm no expert but i think the answer lies in software which many people are looking to for features not covered by their present drum modules.

I do know it can be done with programmes like Ableton live and a midi keyboard which is basically the same as transmitting a midi note on the drums.

I'm sure someone here will have a better answer he he

Superpuss where are ya ? ... he he

[The Source]

Note sure if this is down your alley or not, but have you considered using a MIDI breath controller like this one? http://www.musik-produktiv.co.uk/yamaha-bc3.aspx (used in conjunction with this): http://www.midisolutions.com/prodbth.htm
Basically you can just set it up so that the harder you blow the more closed the hi-hats become, or vice-versa if you want. Just a thought

Aaron

[Chris Jude]

You can definitely map velocity of strike to open/closedness of hats. You could also use a two zone hat cymbal with open sounds triggered when the edge is struck and closed sounds triggered when the bow is stuck; you can also make it so that hitting the bow closes off a playing open (edge) sound.

[wforl]

hmm, thanks for the replies all

Aaron, im currently using my mouth in conjunction with a mouthswtich for the base drum, but thanks for the idea.

I'll check out my td-8, but i couldn't find anything about mapping velocity to sounds of hihat, and i'll also try the 2 zone idea, but ive found it to be quite inaccurate in the past.

maybe software and midi is the solution

[The Source]

Ah, cool, gotcha! You're right, software is definitely the way to go then. There's some software here: http://www.tonywallace.com/heuristic...t_Modules.html
that can convert a MIDI note velocity to a cc value (the high hats pedal position). I think it's only $10 but I'm sure there'd be a free program out there somewhere if you don't feel like ponying up any dough. Hope that helps

[daveybabes]

Looks interesting

Just seen this has come on the market...

It has different zones and velocity switching and runs off its own steam on a pc, you can load up your own samples, so u could have samples of hi hat open half open and closed and many more and trigger them from this. Responds to velocity too.

Using it as a high hat ... ? looks like a usefull tool.

http://www.synesthesiacorp.com/

Just a thought ... best to enquire yourself though to make sure it a has all your required features and will mount on a Roland L Bracket etc

[Chris Jude]

...It has different zones and velocity switching and runs off its own steam on a pc, you can load up your own samples, so u could have samples of hi hat open half open and closed and many more and trigger them from this. Responds to velocity too.

Using it as a high hat ... ? looks like a usefull tool.

http://www.synesthesiacorp.com/

D'oh. I should have thought of that. That's a great suggestion. You can map a fully open sound to the outer most ring, then slightly more closed, all the way to tightly closed as you move inward, and still have all velocity levels.

[The Source]

Ah Mandala... is there anything you can't do? Great thinking daveybabes!!

[vjboc]

Hi,

I was just wondering if theres anyway of linking up the hardness of a stroke with the foot height of the hi hat.

Basically, im a wheelchair user, and have no use of my legs, and am currently using an open hi-hit pad, and a closed hi-hat pad.

But was wondering if i could somehow get more use out of the closed hi hat pad, by having hard hits be outputed as swashy/open sounds and soft hits as closed sounds.

Is this possible?

I currently have a TD-8, but wouldn't mind upgrading if it is featured on higher models.

Thanks for reading,

Are each of your hi hat pads 2 zone? I have a Roland td 8 and a cy14c as a hi hat. I adjusted the decay (instrument edit section) to +5 on the rim strigger to give it a little bit of an open sound and the bow trigger to 0 for a tighter sound. The more positive you go with the decay the more open it sounds, But it also sustains longer too.

[wforl]

Thanks guys,

I got into contact with Fxpansion, and they sent me a free copy of BFD,

So im gonna try and link it up with Cubase, and see what i can get it to do, im going to try and link up velocity up with closed to open.

I tried with my td-8 and the bow for closed, and edge for open, and although it works ok, it requires a lot of accuracy to get it right, and even then sometimes it goes wrong. I figure velocity will be a better option.

Thanks, and i'll keep you updated of how it goes, if your interested at all.