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Why can't I get dual triggers when I try to duplicate pads?
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Each of your pads has two triggers. Each input jack on the module can only receive two triggers.
Even when you split the cable with your adapter, that same jack on the module can still only get two trigger signals. It just gets those two signals from two different pads after the split.
Mathematically: 2 pads with 2 triggers each = 4 triggers. After splitting, 4 pads will only yield 4 trigger signals. The module can only handle 2 trigger signals per jack.
Sorry! That's just the way it is.
I hope that I explained it well enough.VDrums: a cluster of bits including TDW-20 and TD-3 modules, KD-85, PD-85(2), PD-8(5), CY-12(3), CY-8(2), CY-5(3), Kit Toys china, all on an MDS-6SL+ rack, SPD-S, VEX, VDL
ZDrums: a Zendrum ZCSZX
ADrums: an eight piece Tama Rockstar kit with lots o' Zildjians
Gender-Conflicted Drums: a stock PDP Chameleon with a few Zildjians (a conversion just waiting to happen... then it can go both ways!)
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Originally posted by Swaledale View PostSorry but that doesn't seem to make sense to me.
And, ige87 is right... those aren't splitters. The vendor misrepresented them. Those adapters merely parallel the connection so that a person can use two sets of headphones. I didn't snap to that fact earlier. (it still won't work for what you're trying to do)
You need something like this: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...ble?sku=333030
Perhaps someone else here could explain this better than I have.Last edited by TNT; 04-18-08, 11:19 AM.VDrums: a cluster of bits including TDW-20 and TD-3 modules, KD-85, PD-85(2), PD-8(5), CY-12(3), CY-8(2), CY-5(3), Kit Toys china, all on an MDS-6SL+ rack, SPD-S, VEX, VDL
ZDrums: a Zendrum ZCSZX
ADrums: an eight piece Tama Rockstar kit with lots o' Zildjians
Gender-Conflicted Drums: a stock PDP Chameleon with a few Zildjians (a conversion just waiting to happen... then it can go both ways!)
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Just a guess here but it sounds like an impedance problem to me.
What you are doing is essentially connecting two rim piezo's and two head piezo's in parallel. As you may be aware, piezo's will generate a voltage when physically stimulated and will also vibrate in response to an applied voltage.
When you connect two in parallel (as you are with your splitter) the piezo that generates the signal will also send that signal to the other piezo connected to it (via your splitter) and will present a load to the signal, reducing it's amplitude.
I would try increasing the sensitivity and decreasing the threshold on the input with the two pads connected to make up for the lower amplitude signal from the pads.
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Originally posted by TNT View PostWhen you split that cable to use two pads, the tip becomes one pad and the sleeve becomes the other pad.
Originally posted by TNT View PostAnd, ige87 is right... those aren't splitters. The vendor misrepresented them. Those adapters merely parallel the connection so that a person can use two sets of headphones. I didn't snap to that fact earlier. (it still won't work for what you're trying to do)
Perhaps someone else here could explain this better than I have.
Bruce
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Stereo
If those spliters are like the ones I have, it has a male plug (stereo - two pathways - left and right) molded to two mono females (either a left or right). There is only one signal coming into the stereo jack from either pad. You could wire one up yourself by using two stereo female plugs and siring them both to one male stereo plug. Not sure if there would be feedback betweem the pads, but each pad would send two signals to the TD-12.
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Originally posted by Tchagray View PostIf those spliters are like the ones I have, it has a male plug (stereo - two pathways - left and right) molded to two mono females (either a left or right). There is only one signal coming into the stereo jack from either pad. You could wire one up yourself by using two stereo female plugs and siring them both to one male stereo plug. Not sure if there would be feedback betweem the pads, but each pad would send two signals to the TD-12.1/4” (6.35mm) Stereo Plug to Two 1/4” (6.35mm) Stereo Sockets
There will be interaction between the two pads (as per my post HERE) but that will not cause any damage.
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OK... I stand corrected. That's why we value Bruce so much here.
However, if a dual trigger jack could accept four triggers by using a stereo "paralleler" not "splitter," I'm SURE someone would have done that by now! And we certainly would have read on this forum that you can run more pads than Roland advertises. It really would help out a number of GAS attacks!
But, it sounds like SuperPuss is on the right track. Her recommendation seems logical. I'd be interested to find out if this works!
I could be wrong again... but the time stamp you're looking at shows the time a post was submitted based your own local clock. (Bruce, your post shows up as 6:27pm, which is the current time here in Italy)Last edited by TNT; 04-18-08, 11:45 AM.VDrums: a cluster of bits including TDW-20 and TD-3 modules, KD-85, PD-85(2), PD-8(5), CY-12(3), CY-8(2), CY-5(3), Kit Toys china, all on an MDS-6SL+ rack, SPD-S, VEX, VDL
ZDrums: a Zendrum ZCSZX
ADrums: an eight piece Tama Rockstar kit with lots o' Zildjians
Gender-Conflicted Drums: a stock PDP Chameleon with a few Zildjians (a conversion just waiting to happen... then it can go both ways!)
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