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  • #16
    I think I've now got most things sorted out.

    I'm still playing with high-hat settings to try to figure out why it sometimes false triggers (the chick sound while the hat is on its way up).

    The real splitters arrived and made a world of difference. I can easily say that the Mimic Pro is handling split inputs MUCH better than the Roland ever did.

    I'm getting the hang of the various mixers, and tuning some kits to sound better through phones and PA.

    I still haven't found that *one* kit that I'm going to make my typical home base, though I just started going through Chris' uploaded kits, and I'm really liking some of those (Thanks Chris!).

    This weekend I plan to try to solve the unfortunate situation with the built in "player." I think once I have a viable workaround to that, and I've gone through the torturous process of assigning all of my pads to instruments on the kits I plan to use (without any real tools to help do it), I'll be a happy camper.

    (I am still able to occasionally reproduce the "auto select" feature not working - but as things get dialed in, I need to use that less and less)

    -Kevin
    eKit (TD-30KV): http://www.vdrums.com/forum/performa...y-s-drums-td39
    aKit: (Tama Starclassic): http://www.vdrums.com/forum/acoustic...ma-starclassic
    TD30Browser: http://www.vdrums.com/forum/general/...4-td30-browser

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    • #17
      The hihat at open chick sound is threshold only, with my vh11 I set it to 20 and works great and trigs light hit easly

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Chris K View Post
        The hihat at open chick sound is threshold only, with my vh11 I set it to 20 and works great and trigs light hit easly
        Yeah, that's what concerns me. I don't recall what number I'm at (I think 25ish, maybe higher?) and it still occasionally happens...but raising threshold any more than that starts to miss light hits. (probably lighter than I'd actually play though, so that may end up being the solution.) It's just odd that it didn't do this when connected to the TD-30.
        eKit (TD-30KV): http://www.vdrums.com/forum/performa...y-s-drums-td39
        aKit: (Tama Starclassic): http://www.vdrums.com/forum/acoustic...ma-starclassic
        TD30Browser: http://www.vdrums.com/forum/general/...4-td30-browser

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        • #19
          Originally posted by kgoroway View Post

          Yeah, that's what concerns me. I don't recall what number I'm at (I think 25ish, maybe higher?) and it still occasionally happens...but raising threshold any more than that starts to miss light hits. (probably lighter than I'd actually play though, so that may end up being the solution.) It's just odd that it didn't do this when connected to the TD-30.
          What is your hihat vh11?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Chris K View Post

            What is your hihat vh11?
            It's the Vh13, using Vh13ver2 trigger input type.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by kgoroway View Post

              It's the Vh13, using Vh13ver2 trigger input type.
              what is your input gain? you could increased a bit, so your threshold will have more gap to get higher, my input gain is set to 14 with my vh11, but if you increase input gain, you need to redo, capture top velocity, center, and edge.

              I set my close and open sensitivity to 5, lower value means faster close and open transition.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by kgoroway View Post

                Yeah, that's what concerns me. I don't recall what number I'm at (I think 25ish, maybe higher?) and it still occasionally happens...but raising threshold any more than that starts to miss light hits. (probably lighter than I'd actually play though, so that may end up being the solution.) It's just odd that it didn't do this when connected to the TD-30.
                How far apart are your hi hats and is the too cymbal tight?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by kgoroway View Post
                  I'm still playing with high-hat settings to try to figure out why it sometimes false triggers (the chick sound while the hat is on its way up).
                  Give this a try. This is how I solved all my problems... https://www.vdrums.com/forum/advance...tings-tutorial
                  Alan
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                  • #24
                    I have been able to reproduce the problem, it happens when the input gain is too much high, mine was at 14 for some reason, I set it to 13, and been able to set down threshold to 10, what happens is it trigger the open sound from vibration I think, when I hit the controller of vh11 with my stick, it reproduce the same sound.

                    I recommend to set threshold to 10, then start input gain to 8 and increase little until you have sound with lightest stick hit on the hihat cymbal tips, after redo the capture top velocity tip and edge, and crosstalk procedure.
                    Last edited by Chris K; 03-17-18, 08:02 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Chris K View Post

                      what is your input gain? you could increased a bit, so your threshold will have more gap to get higher, my input gain is set to 14 with my vh11, but if you increase input gain, you need to redo, capture top velocity, center, and edge.

                      I set my close and open sensitivity to 5, lower value means faster close and open transition.
                      Input gain at 11, Threshold at 35. This is the best I've come up with so far. Problem is mostly gone (I think I heard it once at these settings), but I'm dropping some of my lightest hi-hat hits.

                      I could increase input gain, but that seems like it would simultaneously boost whatever "noise" is causing this, and be counter productive?

                      So, I'm going to try going the other direction and lowering the input gain. That should let me lower threshold as well. I'll have to see what it does to my lightest hits. I've been temporarily setting theshold to 0 every time I dial in input gain, which seems sensible, but you seem to be suggesting otherwise?

                      eKit (TD-30KV): http://www.vdrums.com/forum/performa...y-s-drums-td39
                      aKit: (Tama Starclassic): http://www.vdrums.com/forum/acoustic...ma-starclassic
                      TD30Browser: http://www.vdrums.com/forum/general/...4-td30-browser

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                      • #26
                        My holder for the phone arrived. I like it. No more dealing with the shortcomings of the built in player.

                        Obligatory drivers seat shots.

                        eKit (TD-30KV): http://www.vdrums.com/forum/performa...y-s-drums-td39
                        aKit: (Tama Starclassic): http://www.vdrums.com/forum/acoustic...ma-starclassic
                        TD30Browser: http://www.vdrums.com/forum/general/...4-td30-browser

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by kgoroway View Post

                          So, I'm going to try going the other direction and lowering the input gain. That should let me lower threshold as well. I'll have to see what it does to my lightest hits. I've been temporarily setting theshold to 0 every time I dial in input gain, which seems sensible, but you seem to be suggesting otherwise?
                          Well set threshold to 0 and reduce input gain and see if you can detect light hit as you will normally play, set it below 11 for input gain. Than set back threshold to 5 or 10

                          if yes, after that you will need to redo capture top velocity tips and edge.
                          Last edited by Chris K; 02-18-18, 04:31 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by kgoroway View Post
                            My holder for the phone arrived. I like it. No more dealing with the shortcomings of the built in player.

                            Obligatory drivers seat shots.
                            Very nice kit and setup.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by kgoroway View Post
                              8) Having 17 or so actual pads connected, and the difficulty in assigning those pad for every single kit I plan to use is a huge burden. It's precisely why I wrote TD30Browser, which allowed me,to assign a cowbell to aux 3 for 99 kits in about 30 seconds. I'm really going to miss that ability. Writing the same type of software for the Mimic doesn't look to be possible, as they seem to be encrypting(???) their files. I don't understand that, since there shouldn't be anything proprietary in there...why not use something readable like XML? Oh well.
                              If you want that many pads, rather than using splitters keep them all 2 zone and use a DDTI to feed another 8 pads in via MIDI. I think I paid about 130 for mine, and it does save you from buying a bunch of splitters. That said 5 splitters is cheaper than the DDTI. Just curious but are you using a BT1 or something similar for your cowbell or do you have something like a CowPaddy?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Thecklos View Post

                                If you want that many pads, rather than using splitters keep them all 2 zone and use a DDTI to feed another 8 pads in via MIDI. I think I paid about 130 for mine, and it does save you from buying a bunch of splitters. That said 5 splitters is cheaper than the DDTI. Just curious but are you using a BT1 or something similar for your cowbell or do you have something like a CowPaddy?
                                I don't know how or why this would make editing/assigning instruments any easier? Same problem, different input.

                                As far as cowbell goes...See the image a few posts earlier. The 8" mesh head in between/above my first two rack toms is almost always assigned as a cowbell. Why? Because that's exactly where my cowbell lives on my acoustic kit. It could be any trigger, I suppose, but I had a bunch of pads left over after merging my TD-30KV and my TD-9KX2, so I use what I have.
                                Last edited by kgoroway; 03-16-18, 12:47 PM.
                                eKit (TD-30KV): http://www.vdrums.com/forum/performa...y-s-drums-td39
                                aKit: (Tama Starclassic): http://www.vdrums.com/forum/acoustic...ma-starclassic
                                TD30Browser: http://www.vdrums.com/forum/general/...4-td30-browser

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