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  • 22" Bass Drum Conversion finally done.

    Well I finally finished my Bass drum conversion using the KISS method. I used a Quartz trigger and a 22" 682 mesh head. It works fantastic. Now to finish the rest of the kit.
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    Roland TD-20K, Pintech Dingbat Triggers, Mac OSX Mountain Lion, Logic Pro & Mainstage
    Ableton Live 8.3, Reaper, PC Windows 8 Pro, Sonar X2 Producer, Session Drummer 3
    Steven Slate Drums 4, Roland DT-1 Vdrums Tutor

  • #2
    Looks great. I'm curious to know how it plays compared to a regular bass head

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    • #3
      How is the rebound on the playing head, is it bouncy? Many people put some sort of dampener behing the head where the beater strikes.

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      • eelectric
        eelectric commented
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        It's not terrible but a little more than I would like, once I finish the other drums in the kit I will probably go back and make a few modifications

      • KennyinDundee
        KennyinDundee commented
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        I've just made an a2e 22" bass drum. I'm just waiting for some tension bolts and a new reso head to finish it off then i will post pics. I used a car polishing circular sponge pad and stuck it to a cross bar. Great feel and triggering.

    • #4
      Good to see you are using Premier drums. How do you like them?

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      • eelectric
        eelectric commented
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        It's funny, I have never played a set acoustically, a friend of mine gave me this set when I told him I was interested in doing a conversion. It was already disassembled so I just started converting it. It's a cool looking kit and well made. I am sure it will be fun when I complete it.

    • #5
      Nice! I love Captain America.
      8 piece DIY Acrylic, 2x2Box DrumIt5, Gen16 4xDCP, DIY Acrylic&Gen16 Conversions, Sleishman Twin-QuadSteele hybrid, Gibraltar&DrumFrame rack, DW9502LB, Midi Knights Pro Lighting
      http://www.airbrushartists.org/DreamscapeAirbrushRealm

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      • eelectric
        eelectric commented
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        Me too, just saw the movie and that was my favorite comic book when I was a kid.

    • #6
      Yeh that's a really cool graphic on the reso head. 👓

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      • #7
        What was the advantage of placing the drum trigger on the edge vs. the center of the drum? I just ordered a set of Quartz triggers with piezo's, so i'm trying to figure out the best placement of the trigger. I have heard that you can run something across the inside of the drum and mount a large piece of memory foam to it to decrease the re-bound of the head. I plan on doing that whenever my cones come in the mail.

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        • eelectric
          eelectric commented
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          Mainly I did it that way after reading some other posts in this forum due to the ease of installation. Plus (Correct me if I am wrong guys) Mounting the cone further from the beater keeps the piezo from getting damaged. It triggers just fine in that location.

        • DustinRY
          DustinRY commented
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          Just wanted to give an update for anyone reading through these forums. I completed my bass drum assembly this weekend. At first, I mounted the piezo on the edge just like your setup. I wasn't getting enough volume from my TD-6 module because the trigger was too far away from the beater. I repositioned the piezo on the cross member that I mounted in my bass drum and my problem was solved. That just goes to show how experimentation is key when working on a DIY project. Good luck all!

      • #8
        This is my recent a2e conversion for my 22" bass drum. Filled with pillows and no more bounce. I wasn't sure if it feels right or not because I don't have much experience with acoustic set and previously was using kd8. Pardon for the ugliness
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        Last edited by Beyond9; 04-07-14, 10:39 PM.

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        • #9
          I use a crossbar with a circular car polishing sponge mounted where the beaters strike. Works a treat. Just waiting on a reso head to arrive then I will post pics.

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          • eelectric
            eelectric commented
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            Great suggestion, gonna try it on mine too. I love this forum.

          • KennyinDundee
            KennyinDundee commented
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            Thanks electric,

            Unfortunately I cannot claim this idea as my own. A few members here have used this before me. It does hep a lot though with feel and rebound.

        • #10
          Hey Kennyin, going to be converting my 20 inch kick in a few weeks . You said you are using that circular sponge where the beater strikes So you are using it on the outside of the batter head or are you talking about on the inside of your herald, behind where the beater makes contact with the head. Also what other dampening on the inside, if any?
          Last edited by hemiboy; 04-08-14, 05:49 PM.

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          • #11
            Hi hemi, In this order from the inside... Crossbar Circular sponge Playing head The beater strikes the playing head as normal. The sponge behind the head helps reduce rebound so that the beater is not bouncing frantically with every strike. The sponge absorbs some of the impact and helps to make the bass drum feel a lot more like an acoustic drum. Does this help hemi?

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            • hemiboy
              hemiboy commented
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              Yes thanks. Are you using any other dampening stuff inside like foam or a pillow?

            • KennyinDundee
              KennyinDundee commented
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              No other dampening so far but I'm waiting on my reso head still. If it's too boomy then I might add more dampening to the reso head.

          • #12
            Originally posted by KennyinDundee View Post
            I use a crossbar with a circular car polishing sponge mounted where the beaters strike. Works a treat. Just waiting on a reso head to arrive then I will post pics.
            thankx for that tip. great idea....
            Sonor S-classix birch
            Paiste and Sabian Cymbals;
            Mapex ProM ->EAD10; Mesh heads; Yamaha Top Triggers, Gen16 and L80 cymbals;

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            • KennyinDundee
              KennyinDundee commented
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              No probs ronyd. We are all here to help each other!

          • #13
            The car polishing sponges can be bought very cheaply on eBay, or many of the discount scores will sell them cheaply.

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            • #14
              Originally posted by KennyinDundee View Post
              The car polishing sponges can be bought very cheaply on eBay, or many of the discount scores will sell them cheaply.
              How did you mount the sponge itself on the crossbar? did you cut a disc out of wood or metal the size of the sponge, then mounted on the crossbar?
              Sonor S-classix birch
              Paiste and Sabian Cymbals;
              Mapex ProM ->EAD10; Mesh heads; Yamaha Top Triggers, Gen16 and L80 cymbals;

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              • #15
                My crossbar is a 4"x2" solid wood bit of timber attached by L brackets onto the screws at diagonally opposite lugs. It adds a bit of weight to the drum but is as solid as hell. The sponge is mounted with double sided tape to the crossbar. When the head is on it is slightly compressed just like the trigger cylinder I have. Seems quite rigid so far.

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                • ronyd
                  ronyd commented
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                  ok makes sense. weight not an issue. solid is good thankx
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