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  • Mesh head on Remo practice pad?

    I have a Remo 8" practice pad and though I would put a mesh head on it to use as my practice pad at work, quietly.

    Didn;t think about it until I read the following thread. Has anyone installed a mesh head on a Remo practice pad?


    http://www.edrum.info/pads.html

    Doesn;t seem anyway to get a tight tension at all. Basically can push in the middle of the head an touch the bottom.

    I did not do a double ply mesh though. Not sure if this would make a difference.
    Last edited by ronyd; 03-24-14, 08:38 AM.
    Sonor S-classix birch
    Paiste and Sabian Cymbals;
    Mapex ProM ->EAD10; Mesh heads; Yamaha Top Triggers, Gen16 and L80 cymbals;

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    Remo Practice set conversion, DIY cymbals, PD-7's & PD-9's, CY-5, Sonor Hi-Hat stand, Roland TD-6V, Zoom RT-123, CB700 snare, Simmons SDMP1 Tunes: https://soundcloud.com/artly-there

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    • #3
      I'm using Solor 90 fiberglass screen. Same that I use on my drum shells. Only one ply though, not doubled up as 2 ply. The tubing is 1/4" and definitely is correct sizing. Fits perfectly around the rim. I was thinking smaller diameter tubing, but probably would be worse.

      Not using this for electronics, just as a quiet practice pad.
      Sonor S-classix birch
      Paiste and Sabian Cymbals;
      Mapex ProM ->EAD10; Mesh heads; Yamaha Top Triggers, Gen16 and L80 cymbals;

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      • #4
        With a typical head profile, like the bottom example in my crude drawing below, the hoop portion of the head sits below the bearing edge even before the head is tightened. You would have to give the tension rods several turns before they begin to apply tension to the head and likely bottom out the travel before you get enough head tension. In a low profile shell application like a practice pad, you need to utilize all of the tension rod travel to apply pressure. If you create a head with a profile like the top example, the tension rods will have a more usable distance in which to apply tension to the head. Hopefully this makes some sense. Check out the two pictures in this post. The mesh head in the photos is an example of the profile I'm suggesting for your application.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bwilburn79 View Post
          With a typical head profile, like the bottom example in my crude drawing below, the hoop portion of the head sits below the bearing edge even before the head is tightened. You would have to give the tension rods several turns before they begin to apply tension to the head and likely bottom out the travel before you get enough head tension. In a low profile shell application like a practice pad, you need to utilize all of the tension rod travel to apply pressure. If you create a head with a profile like the top example, the tension rods will have a more usable distance in which to apply tension to the head. Hopefully this makes some sense. Check out the two pictures in this post. The mesh head in the photos is an example of the profile I'm suggesting for your application.

          great simple pic. yes makes sense. So my circle would be traced using the edge (ie., bearing edge == plastic edge), and my tubing is inserted on the circle. We a little pressure, will be able to fit just over the edge?
          Sonor S-classix birch
          Paiste and Sabian Cymbals;
          Mapex ProM ->EAD10; Mesh heads; Yamaha Top Triggers, Gen16 and L80 cymbals;

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          • #6
            You could always rob the hoop from an 8" Mylar head if you have one. I assume you intend to weave the tubing through the material as you did before? I'm afraid you might have issues with gathering, wrinkles, etc. It's worth a try though. Make the plastic hoop large enough to slip fit around the shell with just enough clearance for the mesh material thickness. Then the you'd draw a circle on the material with a diamter 1/4"-5/16" larger than the outside diameter of the shell. Then you'd weave the plastic tubing along this circle? I'm just guessing since I've never used that method.
            Roland TD12 module / DIY Kit in progress, Gretsch Blackhawk A (soon to be E) kit.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bwilburn79 View Post
              You could always rob the hoop from an 8" Mylar head if you have one. I assume you intend to weave the tubing through the material as you did before? I'm afraid you might have issues with gathering, wrinkles, etc. It's worth a try though. Make the plastic hoop large enough to slip fit around the shell with just enough clearance for the mesh material thickness. Then the you'd draw a circle on the material with a diamter 1/4"-5/16" larger than the outside diameter of the shell. Then you'd weave the plastic tubing along this circle? I'm just guessing since I've never used that method.
              I think my mistake was I used the mylar head to trace the circle. So I need to draw an inside circle maybe 1/4"-5/16", and weave my tubing on the inner circle. I'll re-try tonite.
              Sonor S-classix birch
              Paiste and Sabian Cymbals;
              Mapex ProM ->EAD10; Mesh heads; Yamaha Top Triggers, Gen16 and L80 cymbals;

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bwilburn79 View Post
                With a typical head profile, like the bottom example in my crude drawing below, the hoop portion of the head sits below the bearing edge even before the head is tightened. You would have to give the tension rods several turns before they begin to apply tension to the head and likely bottom out the travel before you get enough head tension. In a low profile shell application like a practice pad, you need to utilize all of the tension rod travel to apply pressure.
                Nice doodle. Exactly. That's what I was meaning to get at, but I articulated it poorly. Too much slack in the mesh head (that profile) does not work with the Remo practice pads because their tightening travel is limited.

                When you get the mesh head profile and hoop just right, your practice pad once tightened will end up about 1/2 to 2/3 of the full travel distance possible (when tightening). I had to re-tighten mine after a couple days but now it's holding nicely.
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                Remo Practice set conversion, DIY cymbals, PD-7's & PD-9's, CY-5, Sonor Hi-Hat stand, Roland TD-6V, Zoom RT-123, CB700 snare, Simmons SDMP1 Tunes: https://soundcloud.com/artly-there

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                • #9
                  Thankx guys. Pictures better than words sometimes. Nice tension now and got another practice pad at my disposal .
                  Sonor S-classix birch
                  Paiste and Sabian Cymbals;
                  Mapex ProM ->EAD10; Mesh heads; Yamaha Top Triggers, Gen16 and L80 cymbals;

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                    Excellent!
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