A2e kick foam

[KennyinDundee Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close KennyinDundee]

Hi folks, I'm in the middle of building my second ekit which is an a2e conversion using a Mapex V series. I've built my own single zone triggers for my toms that trigger brilliantly and now I'm in the middle of converting my kick drum. I've ordered my Zed triple X 22" mesh head and built my trigger which is attached below where the kick beater strikes the pad and mounted on a crossbar. I will be adding foam under the mesh head in order to improve feel and reduce rebound. My question is... ...how far does the foam need to stick out above the bearing edge in order to achieve both excellent triggering and feel most like a real a-kick? Many thanks for any advice folks! Kenny

[Cheddies Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cheddies]

Having never done this I don't know, but it sounds like a YMMV type situation that is gunna need some trial and error to get right :/

[KennyinDundee Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close KennyinDundee]

YMMV cheddies?

[hairmetal-81 Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close hairmetal-81]

If you are asking for the acronym, it's: Your Mileage May Vary.

What Cheddies meant to say is that there isn't a 'general rule' for your foam, here. Stiffer foam will give a firmer rebound/have a major affect on the overall 'playing feel' - and since 'playing feel' is a very subjective matter (kinda hard to give advice on such a thing...) you should simply try a few different types of foams and see which *you* like best!




HTH

[KennyinDundee Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close KennyinDundee]

Thanks hairmetal for clearing that up :-D I have some seating foam that I might try. Ok, heres another question...does the trigger cone still have to be a couple of mm approx above the bearing edge no matter how much the foam is above the bearing edge? Or...is it a case of YMMV?

[bwilburn79]

I'd suggest mounting your cone at the standard height (1/16 " - 1/8") above the bearing edge. Your choice of dampening foam, depending upon how compressible it is, might protrude further beyond the bearing edge than the cone until it is compressed into place by tensioning the drum head. When all is said and done, make sure your cone remains in full contact with drum head at all times.

[Tommy_D Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close Tommy_D]

An 1/8" to 1/4" above the bearing edge should be fine for the foam. If it is a memory type foam that is softer, this will work perfectly. If it is a hard foam, you might only want it about 1/16" above the bearing edge. The cone should be the standard height above the bearing edge. Give it 2-3" inches from the bottom of the foam and you should be good to go.

[KennyinDundee]

Do you mean position the cone about 2-3 inches from the bottom of the foam?

[KennyinDundee Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close KennyinDundee]

Many thanks bwilburn and tommy for ur replies lads. Im thinking about cutting my foam into a circle shape so it looks better when looking at the batter bass drum head. Ok, next question...what size \ diameter should my foam circle be? Thanks Kenny

[bwilburn79]

Large enough to accommodate multiple beaters. 6"-8" should be generous enough. I'd mount the foam on a wooden or metal disc of the same size and mount the assembly to the cross member. That should give you support all the way out to the edges.

[Tommy_D Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close Tommy_D]

Many thanks bwilburn and tommy for ur replies lads. Im thinking about cutting my foam into a circle shape so it looks better when looking at the batter bass drum head. Ok, next question...what size \ diameter should my foam circle be? Thanks Kenny

The foam pad Roland uses is 5 1/4" in diameter. Mount the center of the cone 2" from the bottom of the foam and you are ready to rock and roll. At least with a TD-30 it works perfectly, but it should work well for any module.

[KennyinDundee Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close KennyinDundee]

Thanks lads.

[bud7h4 Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close bud7h4]

How is the foam kept in place ?

[Tommy_D Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close Tommy_D]

Double sided tape to something that spans the width of the inside of the drum.

[KennyinDundee Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close KennyinDundee]

The postman tried to deliver my 22" mesh head but no one was in. I have to go to the parcels office to collect it tomorrow. Im hoping to do some work on it thos weekend.