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  • Foam Cone type?

    So I have a PinTech internal crossbar for my snare. I have Hart dynamic Triggers (modified Ddrum triggers) and have not yet determined if they respond well enough. I'm thinking I might as well just build my own being a DIY'er.

    Questions:
    1. what are the advantages/disadvantages to the roland type cone versus PinTech's cylinder construction?
    2. when to use 27mm versus 35mm piezos?
    3. what are the advantages/disadvantages of internal versus external triggering? The obvious reason the external triggers are visible and could be struck.
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    I have never used the Pintech so not sure. My guess would be less of a hot spot with the cone.

    I have never found a triggering difference based on size of piezos. Anyone else have knowledge on this?

    Center mounting internal triggers should give you more accurate triggering in my experience.
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    • #3
      I'll give it a shot...

      1.
      A piece of foam is a piece of foam. The density of the foam affects the playing feel. But - as I haven't any experience with the Pintech product - whether the actual shaping of the cone has anything more than a minor effect, I'm not sure. If it's a center-mounted cone, you'll run into hotspots rather sooner than later...


      2.
      As I've understood it, the larger piezo will get you more sensivity (or maybe call this: more 'range' to detect triggering i.e. a hotter signal).


      3.
      Until fairly recently, 'internal' essentially meant 'center-mounted' cone, and 'external' meant 'side-mounted' or 'rim' trigger.

      The advantage (with upper-range Roland-modules) of internal (center-mounted) cones is the ability to detect Positional Sensing. By their very nature, external rim-triggers can't offer this. You can't really apply acenter-mounted trigger that's external either - it defeats the purpose somewhat... :-)

      Nowadays, 'external' still means 'rim trigger', but the lines of 'internal' have been blurred in the last year or so, with the arrival of internal rim-triggers, like Triggera's Intrigg and the Wronka!





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      Last edited by hairmetal-81; 02-20-14, 06:09 PM. Reason: spell checking


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      • #4
        Its really easy to make your own triggers, especially if you only want single zone triggers for your toms and kick. An adjustable 'L' bracket mounted to a lug screw gives you a platform to mount a piezo and cone. Internal side mounted triggers avoid horrid hotspots and can last longer as they are not getting pounded on directly. I think 35mm piezos are better for roland type modules. If you are not using a module that supports positional sensing, no need for a centrally mounted trigger.

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          "My best friends' name is J-SON. They used to call him 'Mr. Parse.' He has an 'Error'..!"

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          • #6
            Yeh Ive got my triggers at 5 o'clock as Im right handed and I reckon thats one area of my playing surface where I seldom hit. My other choice is at 7 o'clock due to the positioning of my lugs in relation to the tom tack mount. However my thinking was that I would probably have more chance of hitting that one being a right hander.

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            • #7
              If your sensor is beneath the foam and side mounted, and your mesh head is tight, it doesn't matter where you put it. Even if you hit it directly, there's no big jump / hot-spotish reaction.
              At least, that's the case with our triggers ...
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