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  • FD8 Hi Hat Stand Jman Style VH12 setting compatible

    OK .... I'm pressed for time today, so I'll be brief and will elaborate a little more later. I picked up an FD-8 HH controller that had a broken footboard. I was intending to experiment with VH-12 ranges and also conciderring building it into a HH stand using an old Tama HH stand I already had collecting dust.

    Since the pedal already had a broken footboard it was little anguish for me to perform surgery on the controller or the HH stand for that matter. One thing that I have always liked about the FD7 stand conversions I do is the sturdy construction that results from attaching the stand and pedal, bolting the two together... a bullet proof build. And that is exactly what I wanted if building a similar HH stand conversion using the FD8. I will say in advance that I still prefer the FD7 pedal. The FD7 is stout.... built like a tank... I love that pedal. But by attaching the FD8 and stand legs together this one is not bad ... not quite as beefy as its older brother, but adequate.

    The stand performs as I expected it to. I get full range of HH sounds on the TD-20, from full open to the Extra tight sound that the VH12 gets. It actually will do this simply by setting the trigger type to VH12, but I like to use an adapter that is simply an in line resistor cable. That seems to give me a little better control between ranges ... at least it seems to.
    Here is a folder. I didn't do a complete step by step, just took some shots here and there along the way.
    https://files.secureserver.net/0saKTth5oxOcQb
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    Last edited by JmanWord; 03-16-13, 09:15 AM.
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    Looks like the stand pedal and the Roland pedal are pretty similar in size and shape. That must have been a plus.

    I have tossed around the idea of trying something like this with a TD-6... any thoughts about that?
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    • #3
      Wow, now that is stealth! With the Tama foot plate, it is hard to imagine that there is actually an FD-8 in there! Yet another work of art from the DIY master, Jmanword.

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      • #4
        Oh man this is exactly what I want to do.
        Excellent job Jman (as usual)

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        • #5
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          Thinkin outside the box again

          Inspired and a great job, nice

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          • #6
            This is what I was going to do except using a DW5000 footboard to match my pedals. Very cool Jerry.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by cheapthrill View Post
              Looks like the stand pedal and the Roland pedal are pretty similar in size and shape. That must have been a plus.

              I have tossed around the idea of trying something like this with a TD-6... any thoughts about that?
              You mean FD-6 I think ... You know, as far as being able to make it fit, basically I look inside the Roland pedal to be sure I will be able to cut away casing in an area that will still allow all the moving parts to function plus still have all the mounting screws in tact that attach the plastic housing to the base.

              The one advantage to using the pedal attached to the stand is that you already have the chain attached, so you don't have to improvise for that part.

              As far as electronic function, I think all the models are similar with possibly a little variance in resistance values.
              I could tell you where to stick that piezo! ;)
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              • #8
                Originally posted by fulrmr(Daniel) View Post
                This is what I was going to do except using a DW5000 footboard to match my pedals. Very cool Jerry.
                I was a little surprised to see that there is so much similarity in the pedal on that stand to the pedal on the Rolly... I suspect many other HH pedals might work similar. The chain on that Tama pedal is not pulling straight down... it is offset so it is pulling at a bit of an angle, but it still pulls without hanging up, so I believe it should work fine that way.
                I could tell you where to stick that piezo! ;)
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                • #9
                  Suede, Dinkum, Davey .... Thanks for the Kudos... One of the biggest fears on these kind of projects is ruining a very costly pedal and HH stand .... On my project since the stand was one I got for free years back and the FD-8 already had a broken footboard it was a no fear ... no brainer...
                  I could tell you where to stick that piezo! ;)
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                  • #10
                    Nice jman, I think I found my next victim lol. Just so happen to have an fd8 collecting dust under the bed that a friend would really enjoy using with this mod and I found a couple used stands from a local drum shop for 30 bucks so nothing ventured nothing gained. Thanks for trying this out and posting it up for us to see and copy.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kurtus420 View Post
                      Nice jman, I think I found my next victim lol. Just so happen to have an fd8 collecting dust under the bed that a friend would really enjoy using with this mod and I found a couple used stands from a local drum shop for 30 bucks so nothing ventured nothing gained. Thanks for trying this out and posting it up for us to see and copy.
                      Nice job digging this thread up .... I had forgotten about this one ... I like these stand conversions .... you get to slice and dice 2 pieces of hardware that collect dust to make one useful ..... shiny toy
                      I could tell you where to stick that piezo! ;)
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                      • #12
                        It's crazy how much better these conversions get between yours, Daniels and a few others there are some slick setups and guides out there now. I love taking an old piece of kit and getting that feeling you get when you first got it of "wow this is sweet" all over again......well maybe not with the fd8 pedal but you get what I'm saying lol
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                        • #13
                          That Daniel is a full fledged Gasaholic DIY maniac these days!!!

                          I worked my way backward on these stand conversions ... instead of starting cheap and working my way up .... I went top dollar on my first one
                          http://www.vdrums.com/forum/showthre...as-Roliminator
                          I could tell you where to stick that piezo! ;)
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JmanWord View Post
                            That Daniel is a full fledged Gasaholic DIY maniac these days!!!
                            Hello....my name is Daniel....and I'm a DIY GASaholic...

                            BTW...I'm not looking for a cure either........

                            Originally posted by JmanWord View Post
                            I worked my way backward on these stand conversions ... instead of starting cheap and working my way up .... I went top dollar on my first one
                            http://www.vdrums.com/forum/showthre...as-Roliminator
                            Hehehehehehe......as did I with the DW remote.
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                            • #15
                              Gents, I got my stand together last night but I had to go a bit of a different route with it. I'm stuck on how I should mount this cy8 I have. I saw a post where a guy uses the large bottom felt then stacked a smaller one on that, drilled out a rotation stopper to fit the clutch and somehow it is all suppose to work like a hat should. See this link about what I'm trying to say cause I know that didn't make alot of sense lol. http://www.vdrums.com/forum/showthre...-the-FloppyKit, Thanks for the insite guys!! Kurt

                              PS jman, that roliminator is prety damn slick man, nice and clean but a hell of a sacrafice hey. I just hacked the case of my fd8 up then cut the upright stand braces down to fit onto the plate and into the channels cut into the plastic housing. I drilled up into the cut upright braces from the underside and tapped them to 3mm, screwed a couple random 3mm screws I found in the parts bins up through the bottom plate of the fd8 into the upright stand braces and snugged it tight tight with loc-tite, reassembled the screws into plastic housing tighten it down and it all seems to look quite nice for the most part.

                              My chain ended up on an angle too but it is not an issue, I had to mount the chain in a funny way to take up more slack but I may redo that portion with a brace down to the footboard height adjustment screw for a cleaner look and more footboard room. I'll add a picture to my old hihat thread cause I'm sure it will , make more sense though my camera died part way through and I missed pictures on the drilling and tapping part but I'm sure it will pretty obvious. Thanks for help, Kurt
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