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  • JmanWord
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    Originally posted by fulrmr(Daniel) View Post
    My pans from Fat Daddios were shipped today. Couldn't find anything big enough for a 22" kick so I will be modifying my 16" floor tom and making a kick from it until I can find a 21" pan.
    The simple solution is don't use a pan for the kick ... I do not plan on changing anything on the kicks I've already built, they trigger perfect already. As far as triggering: the kick is only single zone, and the easiest of all to trigger pretty much...

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  • fulrmr(Daniel)
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    My pans from Fat Daddios were shipped today. Couldn't find anything big enough for a 22" kick so I will be modifying my 16" floor tom and making a kick from it until I can find a 21" pan. I'm finally going to cut down the Ludwigs. Bought new rims and will have 2 split tom sets. 1 with an open bottom for my church kit and another with rims on both sides to add to my Pearl kit.

    Did you hear that??????...............There's a Monster on the Horizon.

    BTW-All 3 kits will be matching Smokey Chrome.

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  • racer52
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    Love this idea of yours..

    I went out and bought a set of 2" x 9" Wilton cake pans here in town. Target dept store has them as well as A.C. Moore craft store. (although just the 2"x9")

    Also recently picked up a few more 'youth' sized, made in china, drums. The pans fit into the drums great. By chance, the 2" pans were just what I needed for the small toms as the tom mounts with a tube stuck straight into the side (not an L-rod). a 3" pan would have blocked the hole in the drum and prevented adjustment on the rack.

    As these are the cheapest of drums, and will only be e-drums, I don't care about the bearing edge.

    I did notice that the drum shells themselves are not all the same size, but the pans fit in them anyway. Quality is job one in these China kits - The "Ludwig" youth kit seemed a bit inferier to the "Pulse" youth kit. One 10" drum fit the same way Tom Knipes photos showed, the other had the pan extended to the outer edge of the shell (slightly smaller drum shell - but still a 10" head and hoop) The "Pulse" kit actually had 5 tension rods on a 10" drum head!

    thanks for the way cool concept Chrome Boy and Jman

    yet another great idea being stolen by yours truly.

    Hey ChromBoy.. Were all the pans you ordered slightly tapered from base to rim?

    the 2"x9" Wilton brand pans I found locally are, but everything else in Wilton they have has sides that are exactly 90 degrees from the bottom ???

    The weblink (www.fantes.com) didn't really specify - just says straight sides

    What part #s did you order from them? I'll need to order the rest of what I need.

    Thank you again for posting this DIY, it is just what folks needed for converting those really nice a-kits
    Last edited by racer52; 02-17-10, 01:50 AM.

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  • fulrmr(Daniel)
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    Originally posted by cheapthrill View Post
    Spacemuffins, huh? I've never heard of that bran

    I'd just love to convert one of those micro-bop kits... I have been gradually putting together another conversion which, in my mind, will be similar to it (minus the right mounted tom).
    LOL! Bran Muffin! HA! Funny!

    Space Muffins are really nice. They play very well. They're the reason I shy'd away from factory edrums and started DIYing my own kit right from the beginning. I even built my first kit using mylar heads but they were way to hot and loud. Al really makes some nice stuff.

    BTW-The Micro-Bop is already a conversion. As are all Space Muffins.
    Last edited by fulrmr(Daniel); 02-15-10, 12:54 PM.

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  • cheapthrill
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    Originally posted by bogiesbad View Post
    We already have Space Muffins: http://www.boomtheory.com/id3.html
    Spacemuffins, huh? I've never heard of that bran

    I'd just love to convert one of those micro-bop kits... I have been gradually putting together another conversion which, in my mind, will be similar to it (minus the right mounted tom).

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  • bogiesbad
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    Originally posted by mrantarctica View Post
    Surely it won't be long before someone converts a muffin tray into an SPD type sampler pad
    We already have Space Muffins: http://www.boomtheory.com/id3.html

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  • mrantarctica
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    Surely it won't be long before someone converts a muffin tray into an SPD type sampler pad

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  • fulrmr(Daniel)
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    Originally posted by KnipeDrums View Post
    I figured since you guys came up with a unique way of using these I might as well try it. I do think it makes a nice neat conversion and very practical. I did find another way to tight up the pan around the shell. It was by adding my own molded bearing edge but found it is too tight. I am revising and will post when I find the right combo.

    I have to say I like the pans edge as the bearing edge. Very nice. The fit is slightly loose but as ChromeBoy stated that the foam insulation tape will tighten the fit. I did fit a head on and they fit perfectly. Once the head is on there wont be any moving around.
    Were these the pans that Jerry found or the ones that Chromeboy used? I'm getting ready to order mine tonight.

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  • KnipeDrums
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    I figured since you guys came up with a unique way of using these I might as well try it. I do think it makes a nice neat conversion and very practical. I did find another way to tight up the pan around the shell. It was by adding my own molded bearing edge but found it is too tight. I am revising and will post when I find the right combo.

    I have to say I like the pans edge as the bearing edge. Very nice. The fit is slightly loose but as ChromeBoy stated that the foam insulation tape will tighten the fit. I did fit a head on and they fit perfectly. Once the head is on there wont be any moving around.

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  • ChromeBoy
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    Thanks for the pics Tom. Doesn't look like you needed to grind the pan at all to avoid the hardware like Jman did. The fit looks pretty similar to the fit of my 14" floor toms which are working perfectly.
    I have added 2 items to those pans to tighten the fit in the shell. First, I added a rubberized weather seal like the one that Jman uses just under the lip of the pan. For $5 I got enough to do all of my drums. Second, on the 14" toms, I added 4 small squares (1"x1") of the the foam weather stripping I had been using previously spaced evenly around the sides of the pan to snug it up in the shell. Thanks for the update on your progress.

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  • cheapthrill
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    Originally posted by steve_huck View Post
    So i plan on using this idea for my 16" kick. My plan is too stuff the pan full of some polyester filling, throw a 16" disc of slow release foam (campmat) on top of that, and hold it all down tight with a mesh head. It will be triggered bt my roland rt10 trigger.

    Should i get a 1 or 2" depth? I dont want to run into the problem where the pan is too deep. And i figure a 1" pan would be easier to stuff.
    What you are building is essentially a reflection plate. I'd go with the shallower pan because the depth of a deeper pan is more relevant to cone clearance. That way, you need less poly filling to densely stuff it.

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  • steve_huck
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    So i plan on using this idea for my 16" kick. My plan is too stuff the pan full of some polyester filling, throw a 16" disc of slow release foam (campmat) on top of that, and hold it all down tight with a mesh head. It will be triggered bt my roland rt10 trigger.

    Should i get a 1 or 2" depth? I dont want to run into the problem where the pan is too deep. And i figure a 1" pan would be easier to stuff.

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  • cheapthrill
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    Originally posted by KnipeDrums View Post
    Well the cake pans came in and I figured i would take a few pics of how they sit on the bearing edge of an e shell. Here they are:
    Tom, have you tried tightening the hoop over it yet? It looks like the rim of the pan might be just a little too small for the hoop to situate on it well, but that might not necessarily be the case. If that issue has already been pointed out earlier in the thread, I apologize.

    p.s. That's a nice shell you got there.

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  • KnipeDrums
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    Well the cake pans came in and I figured i would take a few pics of how they sit on the bearing edge of an e shell. Here they are:
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  • RavenMad
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    thanks for the update ChromeBoy - I was just about to ask how things have "panned" out

    Seriously tho, I'm about to use this technique on my own conversion (looks a lot easier and nicer finish than the cross-bar method) - I'll let y'all know how it goes.

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