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  • cheapthrill
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    Originally posted by Hercules View Post
    The magnet idea is actually a pretty good one for hihats - you could glue a magnet inside the hats and have a removable trigger on the outside.....
    I am not sure that I understand exactly what you mean, Herc. Can you elaborate?

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  • Hercules
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    Originally posted by cheapthrill View Post
    That is a great idea, but magnets don't stick to cymbals.
    The magnet idea is actually a pretty good one for hihats - you could glue a magnet inside the hats and have a removable trigger on the outside.....

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  • cheapthrill
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    Originally posted by JmanWord View Post
    I've had varied success with Killer Red and Hot glue also (I use both together ... 2 layers of Killer Red on the bottom and hot glue around the outside and covering the box ears), and is the reason I always stress the durability of installing with fasteners.... not as big of a deal if the kit isn't gigged, but I wouldn't even bother trying the no holes mount with a gigging kit.

    The Sabian Alu Bell in the pic has had the jack box attached with Killer Red for 10 months now. The box is attached directly to the flat aluminum edge. My vinyl is further inside the bell. I definitely don't put the kind of time or hard play in on that bell though like the crashes. Having the no holes crash in my kit is good though, it gives me that test case I need.
    I have tried the KRT coupled with hot glue too, which does seem to hold well when combined. I must echo you, they still do not hold as dependably as fasteners do and I wouldn't trust them for gigging either... it would be kind of embarrassing if, during a hot little number, the project box comes loose and dangles from the cymbal. Then what? hot-glue it during the intermission? Oh no!

    That is a good idea to have a no-hole study cymbal in the mix. Time will tell how it holds up. Crashes are like wild broncos trying to buck off those project box riders.

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  • t_henson
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    very impressive kit, as always.

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  • TriggerThis
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    About the magnets... if you put one on top of the cymbal and another one on the bottom it could work depending on the magnet strength.

    Ever tried epoxy glue ? Its so strong.. the olympic stadium in montreal is glued together with epoxy!

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  • JmanWord
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    Originally posted by cheapthrill View Post
    Cool vid, J, I dig the pitch control idea.

    I have dabbled in hole-less cymbals myself. I have tried tapes and glues, but they have a rather low success rate. Hot gluing the project boxes onto PVC has eventually come loose on just about all my cymbals, but maybe a heavy-duty kind of glue stick would last longer. A slow-drying epoxy seems like the best long-term solution for hole-less cymbal triggers. I find that nothing endures like metal fasteners, but I sure do love how cymbals look without the holes!

    A word of caution: anybody who wants to convert their "good" cymbals should know that applying PVC with KRT has potential to damage the cymbal's finish over time. Using a decent low-end cymbal like a ZBT or a B8 as a permanent cymbal trigger may save a person money in the long run by preserving their good acoustic cymbals strictly for acoustic usage.
    I've had varied success with Killer Red and Hot glue also (I use both together ... 2 layers of Killer Red on the bottom and hot glue around the outside and covering the box ears), and is the reason I always stress the durability of installing with fasteners.... not as big of a deal if the kit isn't gigged, but I wouldn't even bother trying the no holes mount with a gigging kit.

    The Sabian Alu Bell in the pic has had the jack box attached with Killer Red for 10 months now. The box is attached directly to the flat aluminum edge. My vinyl is further inside the bell. I definitely don't put the kind of time or hard play in on that bell though like the crashes. Having the no holes crash in my kit is good though, it gives me that test case I need.
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  • bogiesbad
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    Originally posted by cheapthrill View Post
    That is a great idea, but magnets don't stick to cymbals.
    Yeah...I was thinking about that during dinner. Doh!

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  • cheapthrill
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    Originally posted by bogiesbad View Post
    On the cymbals...anyone try using something like these instead of or with adhesives?
    That is a great idea, but magnets don't stick to cymbals.

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  • Cuban
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    Simply stunning.

    I'd love to have and A to E kit one day, perhaps you could you PM me with
    some costs as I come over to CA a few times each year on tours and could
    bring over some drums or buy there, have converted and ship back?

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  • bogiesbad
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    Nice trick on the pedal J...after thought the FD's won't work without major mods...need a rocker type pedal.

    On the cymbals...anyone try using something like these instead of or with adhesives?

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  • cheapthrill
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    Cool vid, J, I dig the pitch control idea.

    I have dabbled in hole-less cymbals myself. I have tried tapes and glues, but they have a rather low success rate. Hot gluing the project boxes onto PVC has eventually come loose on just about all my cymbals, but maybe a heavy-duty kind of glue stick would last longer. A slow-drying epoxy seems like the best long-term solution for hole-less cymbal triggers. I find that nothing endures like metal fasteners, but I sure do love how cymbals look without the holes!

    A word of caution: anybody who wants to convert their "good" cymbals should know that applying PVC with KRT has potential to damage the cymbal's finish over time. Using a decent low-end cymbal like a ZBT or a B8 as a permanent cymbal trigger may save a person money in the long run by preserving their good acoustic cymbals strictly for acoustic usage.

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  • TriggerThis
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    VERY impressive!

    I bet you put a video of this on you tube and don't tell anyhone is not a "real drum" (ah ah ah) and nobody could tell the sound is comming from a TD-20. The only thing you'de have to do is send the output to an effect processor to screw the sound up a lilttle.. well, you know, like a "real drum" sounds like!

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  • fulrmr(Daniel)
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    Another geat video Jerry! Love the expression pedal. I will be integrating that into my kit plans as well. Thanks!

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  • JmanWord
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    Alan, aloha, kauai ..... thanks for the kind words....
    BIGWILL, PM sent...

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  • JmanWord
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    Originally posted by bogiesbad View Post
    Nicely done Jerry! You work is always top-notch. I am curious about the pitch-change feature...I used (prolly mis-used) it on a kit but not very effectively. Does it work on all the rotos at the same time...I'm guessing yes...and what pedal are you using? My guess is a Jman'd FD 6/7/8...with the spring removed to allow the pedal to remain in position. I think I'll try that for my second HH as it's easier than the electronic clutch Sam made for me.
    BTW....Happy Easter to you and all!
    Thanks for the kind words my friend, and Happy Easter to you

    Pitch change feature is on a per pad and per zone (head and rim independent) basis with the TD-20. And that goes for the TD-10 with TDW-1 also, but of course the TD-10 only gives you rim zone on a piezo/switch type pad .... except snare.

    Here's the trick though Chris... since I am using 2 modules... my 1st module has my main HH on it. My additional module has my Rotos and Aux HH. So I can control my Aux HH separate from my main HH. Being able to control the varied openness of my Aux HH is exactly why I use that. I have a clutch with my main HH that I can use like you, but find it very nice to have a second HH already set up with the perfect open HH sound I can go to without even engaging or disengaging a clutch.

    Nothing so DIY on the pedal (Good idea though!). I have had an EV-5 expression pedal for my HPD-15 for years and never really used it with that so I hooked it up in the HH Cntrl input of my second module for the HH and Rotos:

    http://www.rolandus.com/products/pro...px?ObjectId=54

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