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    I would like to know about r.e.t electronic drums. If anyone here has a set or knows that kind of piezo they use it would be a great help to me. I have been searching for a while now. I have only found out that the piezo is mounted on a thin resonator plate in between two thin pieces of foam. I also found that the resonator plate is tuned to pickup drum strikes and that helps with cross talk. I haven't even touched a set of them I only saw a video on how sensitive they were and I was blown away. Also if anyone knows where to find or buy a resonator plate that would help or clues about them (anything about those drums.) How do they use another piezo to trigger the rim of the snare drum and use them together to make a rimshot?

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    I was asking myself the same thing, haven't had much luck with Roland Cones with a bridge design and a Yamaha module, so I was looking into other methods (like RET's) of triggering drums.

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    • #3
      You guys could always try something like this:





      The foam disk would be about 6" in diameter and it would sit about 1/16" above the edge of the drum. You might have to try some different measurements. Keep in mind that DIY can sometimes be a trial and error thing. I hope this helps.

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      • #4
        I used something similar to Hellfire's system. My circular plate and foam disks are about 1" in diameter less than the drum diameter, say about 13" for a 14" snare. I did my whole A2E kit this way and I have had no triggering issues at all, also very good sensitivity, good buzz roll response, etc. I've attached a mechanical drawing cross section of the assembly.
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        • #5
          I tryed the aluminum flashing it didn't turnout like I wanted it to. I wont use a mesh head. I tryed a set of d drums and sent them back becouse of the mesh head thing. I want to get a great electronic sound from a real drum head. I have to do this or its gonna kill me. Maby im crazy to think it can be done without spending a crap load of money. I still will keep trying and one day I will be victorius.

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          • #6
            what makes a piezo sensative is it the sound pressure level or frequency or what.Id like to know where to buy a really really sensative piezo

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            • #7
              Originally posted by John F View Post
              I used something similar to Hellfire's system. My circular plate and foam disks are about 1" in diameter less than the drum diameter, say about 13" for a 14" snare. I did my whole A2E kit this way and I have had no triggering issues at all, also very good sensitivity, good buzz roll response, etc. I've attached a mechanical drawing cross section of the assembly.
              That's an interesting design, I wish I could try your drum for myself. I am curious though, from where did you get the foam and the reflector plate?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by ricepattydaddy View Post
                I tryed the aluminum flashing it didn't turnout like I wanted it to. I wont use a mesh head. I tryed a set of d drums and sent them back becouse of the mesh head thing. I want to get a great electronic sound from a real drum head. I have to do this or its gonna kill me. Maby im crazy to think it can be done without spending a crap load of money. I still will keep trying and one day I will be victorius.
                I think a real drum head would work fine on my A2E drums. I considered using my real drum heads over the foam disks but decided on mesh heads because they are somewhat quieter. Also, with regard to the aluminum plate, mine is made from .025" sheet aluminum - this is thicker and stiffer than flashing. It was a flat sheet, not rolled up like flashing is.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cheapthrill View Post
                  That's an interesting design, I wish I could try your drum for myself. I am curious though, from where did you get the foam and the reflector plate?
                  The reflector plate was made by cutting a circle from a flat sheet of .025" thick aluminum which came from the local Ace Hardware store. Notice that I said a flat sheet. It is not made from flashing, which is too thin and flexible to work with for this. The foam came from a local fabric/upholstery outlet and is just a generic white foam used to upholster chairs, sofas, or whatever.

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                  • #10
                    Hey John... for the rest of us still summoning the courage to try a build , would you post pics of the guts of your drums?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LiamSlack View Post
                      Hey John... for the rest of us still summoning the courage to try a build , would you post pics of the guts of your drums?
                      Sure, I'll take some pictures over the weekend. Right now the only ones I have are of the assembled kit which I've posted before but I'll post again. In the "top" picture you can see the outline of the foam disks underneath the mesh heads. I'll take a head off one of the toms and take a few pics of how it goes together. My main goal was that no irreversible modification was made to the A-kit, so I could convert it back in the future if I chose to.
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                      • #12
                        Hee john,

                        That looks great, so the triggering really works out for you right? I think I'm going to try this design with a 'real' head for my Yamaha module, curious to see how it responds en feels (since Yamaha uses this type of design for their older DTXtreme I pads). Is triggering even all across the head? Even at the edges?

                        Great mechanical drawing btw!!

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