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    I was wondering what's the best way to muffle a bass drum for use with a ddrum pro bass trigger. I have a hart 22" mesh head on it and this is the only thing holding me back from being 100% happy with my A to E conversion.

    Here's a link of the ddrum trigger.
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    I'm having a really hard time getting the trigger settings just right on the TD20 module. It seems I'm either double triggering too much (from beater bouce-back) but when I set various parameters to cut back on it as specified in the manual (or what I could find in this forum), it doesn't trigger hard enough for the fast double bass stuff.

    Normally, I'd write this off as bad technique on my part. However, I previously had the KD120 and it would trigger perfectly on that pad.

    I've switched pad types already in my TD-20, adjusted every reasonable trigger sensitivity, threshold, mask time, scan time, cables etc. to try to corner the problem but still I either get too much cut out or not enough. I even searched the forum for a long time and didn't see an obvious thread specific to this scenario/equipment.

    I have stuffed the bass drum with a king size set of sheets we had lying around. It seemed to me that the BD head is just wobbling too much resonance and setting the trigger off. Should I dampen it more or move the trigger? I currently have the trigger sitting at about 7:30 on my bass drum hoop behind the mass of "dampneing sheets" for maximum effect. After I moved the trigger from 9:00 to the current position, it seemed to help a bit but it's still not quite there. Any pointers on external trigger placement?

    Any ideas what could be going wrong here?
    My Setup: Converted Pacific A to E, DW5000 Accelerator double pedal, Ahead sticks, Presonus Firepod, Denon DN-HP1000 headphones, HP Pavilion DV9000 laptop running Drumkit from Hell Solo, Sonar Producer.

  • #2
    Hello there,

    I had the same experience with my 22" bass drum.I devised a dampening method that kills the unnatural bounce which I am very happy with. Click on this link and my solution is about 3 posts down in the thread.

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    • #3
      Awesome. I'll definitely try that and report the results back.
      My Setup: Converted Pacific A to E, DW5000 Accelerator double pedal, Ahead sticks, Presonus Firepod, Denon DN-HP1000 headphones, HP Pavilion DV9000 laptop running Drumkit from Hell Solo, Sonar Producer.

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      • #4
        Hi

        I copied Suedeheads idea (shamelessly ) and it works great. I have a ddrum pro trigger at 12 o'clock, other positions dont work so well for me on a double pedal.

        I have also stuffed the bass drum with pillows and changed from a sewed-on falam slam patch (which was really quite loud even with felt beaters) to sewing on a a cut-out of a 8" Roland mesh head and use this with plastic Pearl quad beaters - It is SO quiet - my PD-125 is now the loudest drum Need to tame the VH12 now...

        HTH
        Cheers
        Paul

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        • #5
          Those falam slam patches are quite loud. I just use two layers of duct tape to cover the striking surface and it keeps the felt beater from destroying the head. You will have to change the tape about every two months depending on how much you play as it eventually gets worn through. This is also much quieter than the slam patches.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by suedehead
            Those falam slam patches are quite loud. I just use two layers of duct tape to cover the striking surface and it keeps the felt beater from destroying the head. You will have to change the tape about every two months depending on how much you play as it eventually gets worn through. This is also much quieter than the slam patches.
            How loud is the setup you have in comparison to a KD-8 with it's rubber surface?

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            • #7
              I have not played or heard the acoustic noise of the KD-8 so I cannot make a comparison. I have played a KD-120 and the noise level is about the same or even louder than my 22". My dampened 22" kick definitely feels more realistic than the KD-120.

              I know that people in this community have had trouble with neighbors complaining about the noise created with the KD-8. I think the reason might be the hard rubber pad that the beater is hitting transfers the vibration into the floor. From what I can tell, the noise that is created by my 22" kick is dissipated more by the larger head and drum shell area and not transferred into the floor causing downstairs neighbors to complain if you are in that situation.

              One other word of advice is that if you are using an acoustic head for the front of the drum opposite the mesh head, make sure that you stuff a pillow up against it on the inside of the drum. This will stop the head from vibrating and causing more noise.

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              • #8
                i found that stuffing the kick full of polyfill helps eliminate double triggering as well. At a couple bucks a bag it is a cheap way to go.

                -Dusty-

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