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    Hi,
    I finished this kit tonight! Yesterday I had half a tom ready. I cut and burned my left hand many times on knives and scorching hot soldering irons. I haven't even had time mopping the blood from the floor yet:

    This is Blitzkrieg DIY building!

    I am a poor student, so my budget was tight! I live in the worlds richest country, Norway, and the economy is adapted for oil sheiks. Therefor I shopped a lot on the Ebay, buying stuff from the soon even poorer Americans. If some of these prices seem high, have in mind that everything is about twice the price of what it is in the States. Petrol 95 octane is $2,5/ Litre. And we drill our own oil.

    A Walk-Through:
    Toms A, B: One new Tama Tom 10" $70 (sawed in three) + a large robust wooden plank cut to about 20 cm + 35 mm head piezo and 27 mm rim piezo. The logic behind the 27mm is that they are less sensitive than the 35mm and seems to reduce the events when a hit generates a too strong of a signal. I tried to isolate them further by screwing through a layer of doublesided tape. I wanted such a heavy wooden plank so it would not move. Fredarl said that his aluminium L-rod Toms got better when he held on to them, indicating that it moved. A heavy wooden plank would gain momentum slower than a light aluminium rod. And, the Tom itself was wooden and it looked nice to ha similar materials.

    Toms C, D: two Pintech drums $150, cone adjusted to a wedding cake (Oh, come on it is what it looks like!), by the very helpful Fredarl.

    Kick: My own design: Roland KD-8 ($140) + section of a Tama tom 10" + metal plate + screws and nuts, 2 sandpaper foams glued and later cut to form cones 38 mm high and 38 mm wide. Never touched the wiring. I glued the hole plate with foam and piezo to the metal plate holding the 10" Tama section.

    Snare: Pearl chrome snare $80 + metal U-bar I found in a dumpster. Adjusted the lenght, drilled some holes, female 1/4 in, two rim 35mm piezos, one 35mm piezo. The rim likes to be muffled with a benzine hose to reduce the events when the head piezo activates. I was careful to isolate the piezos with 3-4mm doublesided tape and also cardboard. I rather cut away some from the cone to have room with proper isolation, and I only let the cone be 3-4 mm above the rim edge. The mesh head should be flat with only a hint of the cone beneath it. The U-bar rests on a little packing foam for isolation, which I screwed through.

    Hi-hat: A most ordinary PD-6 found on ebay for $20. My TD-6V is most in love with it, since they are about the same vinage.

    Hi-Hat pedal: Alesis or Korg keyboard pedal works fine. Note! Mono male 1/4 works fine.

    Cymbal: Yes, that is a mouse mat. A ten year old mouse mat, which smells kind of funky. I found a 14" hi-hat for 15 dollars at the discount shelf at the local store. The arm I bought for $30 on ebay with the rack. I was lazy and waiting for Fredarl remembering the correct koll-ID for the package, I bought a $15 finished single zone 27mm piezo with a ready output. Works great and it is already covered with rubber. Double sided tape and it sticks.

    Rack Clamps: Me being very poor helps my ingenuity. Try $5 dollar for stable rack clamp. "Caahtching!" Note! For extra stability and less wobbling - Use two pairs of each rings, and not single rings like I have done. I am lazy.

    Rack: Found it on ebay for $50, ordinary V-drums rack. Does its job.

    Module: Roland TD-6V. 11 inputs. Several dual trigger. I have tried the Roland TD-20 and I cannot figure out why someone would want to pay that for only a slightly better product. If not the expansions are absolutely incredible, I wouldn't bother. $250 from England.

    Cables: I'm so poor I even have to make my own cables! Look at the chrome/black ones. Sexy *****es. $4 each.

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    Oh, the bass is also DIY painted by myself - "Flames! It has to have flames!", my girl said. So I said, "Then let there be flames."
    (not the girl on the picture)

    The guitar is a cheap ass J&D I have had since I was 16, now with rediculously nice pickups - Seymore Duncan Hot Rails neck pickups and the classic Superdistortion humbucker used by Bad Religion, etc.
    Attached Files
    Last edited by Rewind; 09-26-08, 06:56 PM.

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    The kit looks good. How did you mount the kick drum?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by moja music View Post
      The kit looks good. How did you mount the kick drum?
      Good question, for which the answer I have provided on the 11 of September. But a short answer is glue for the piezo rubber/metal plate to stand, and fit a metal plate with holes to the stand. Then buy a cheap 10" Tom and fit it to the metal plate with L brackets. To fasten the rim, attach the same L brackets to the original L brackets and use ordinary drum screws. The bottom rim screw can even be fasten to the stand.

      Here follows a complete guide to rather magically transfer the crude KD-8 to a blissful KD-120 for hardly no money at all:
      http://www.vdrums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43123
      Last edited by Rewind; 09-27-08, 06:25 PM.

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      • #4
        Update on my kit:

        I added three extra things. Pearl 14" hihat as two extra cymbals, and a 14" Pearl Export TOM 5 with a very cute pink and soft foam coan. Roland only supplies 12" toms, he he. And two y-cables so now I have 5 (working) toms. The exact number Superior 2 has. And it is a dream to play on! Superior 2 is great. Addictive drums Retro less great, but very fun to play around with. Its Led Zep presets are cool, and alien drums too. BFD2 is just to massive in its sound for my taste.

        That makes it a total of 12 INPUTS + HH Controller.

        It is a dream to play on! Superior 2 is great. Addictive drums Retro less great, but very fun to play around with. Its Led Zep presets are cool, and alien drums too. BFD2 is just to massive in its sound for my taste.

        See picture!!
        Attached Files

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        • #5
          And now its sold. For 2300 dollars. NEXT!

          This one will be for myself, if no one offer me rediculously much money for it. I noticed Millennium has really cheap toms and a bent chrome rack on www.Thomann.de

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rewind View Post
            And now its sold. For 2300 dollars. NEXT!

            This one will be for myself, if no one offer me rediculously much money for it. I noticed Millennium has really cheap toms and a bent chrome rack on www.Thomann.de
            Rewind your kit looks great.Really fantastic !!
            it;s really cool u have saved so much money
            with all that savings you could buy all the VEX packs for your module !!
            Ex E-kits:
            ''Lernean Hydra'' ( a bounche of roland pads with a td-6 module)
            ''Lucy'' (Diamond electronic drums with a td-12 module)
            current E-kit
            ''Cherry Gretschy Lady'' (Gretsch Catalina Ash 6 piece A to E kit-Roland td20 module-A to E cymbals)

            A-kit
            " Mrs.Catalina'' (Gretsch Catalina maple 6 piece kit-Paiste signature+Masterwork custom made cymbals)

            check out a few videos http://www.youtube.com/user/hampisdrums

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            • #7
              Originally posted by hampis View Post
              Rewind your kit looks great.Really fantastic !!
              it;s really cool u have saved so much money
              with all that savings you could buy all the VEX packs for your module !!
              Many thanks, I am glad you liked it.

              I sold the module too. I heard about this Megadrum drum module with 10 dual inputs that is even more sensitive than a TD-20, according to previous customers. And you get to solder everything yourself! DIY happiness in a small plastic box.

              Although, now I am contemplating to buy a used Roland HD-1 and to DIY some proper mesh heads and adding a F-ing 14" mesh head kick drum with double pedals. It will save loads of space and I think the little thing is so sexy and minimalistic. But the rubber pads are history, thanks to all your brilliant ideas here on the forum.
              Last edited by Rewind; 11-14-08, 06:03 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rewind View Post
                Many thanks, I am glad you liked it.

                I sold the module too. I heard about this Megadrum drum module with 10 dual inputs that is even more sensitive than a TD-20, according to previous customers. And you get to solder everything yourself! DIY happiness in a small plastic box.

                Although, now I am contemplating to buy a used Roland HD-1 and to DIY some proper mesh heads and adding a F-ing 14" mesh head kick drum with double pedals. It will save loads of space and I think the little thing is so sexy and minimalistic. But the rubber pads are history, thanks to all your brilliant ideas here on the forum.
                OHH great man i will also get this megadrum,give me more details
                could i load some VEX in this beast ?
                Ex E-kits:
                ''Lernean Hydra'' ( a bounche of roland pads with a td-6 module)
                ''Lucy'' (Diamond electronic drums with a td-12 module)
                current E-kit
                ''Cherry Gretschy Lady'' (Gretsch Catalina Ash 6 piece A to E kit-Roland td20 module-A to E cymbals)

                A-kit
                " Mrs.Catalina'' (Gretsch Catalina maple 6 piece kit-Paiste signature+Masterwork custom made cymbals)

                check out a few videos http://www.youtube.com/user/hampisdrums

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by hampis View Post
                  OHH great man i will also get this megadrum,give me more details
                  could i load some VEX in this beast ?
                  Just google megadrum and you will find it. Hell, l will do it for you. http://www.megadrum.info/

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                  • #10
                    Megadrum is purely a TMI, it has no sounds. You have to midi up to a computer and use something like Superior 2 or BFD.

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                    • #11
                      Mega Drum Is bad!!!!!

                      Now I don't mean to disrespect anyone on their inventions. But I have an Alesis Trigger I/o And MegaDrum. I really am not Impressed with the megadrum at all. For the price of megadrum you can buy Alesis Trigger I/o. Trust me i spent the money I know!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dbeaston View Post
                        Now I don't mean to disrespect anyone on their inventions. But I have an Alesis Trigger I/o And MegaDrum. I really am not Impressed with the megadrum at all. For the price of megadrum you can buy Alesis Trigger I/o. Trust me i spent the money I know!
                        As far as I can judge, arguing with you or helping you is a waste of time, so I won't argue with you here either, especially because I don't have Alesis IO. I grieve you lost time building MegaDrum but I'm sure you can at least recover the money you lost buy selling what you built on Ebay as, say, spare parts.
                        www.megadrum.info - DIY E-drum MIDI Drum Trigger

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dbeaston View Post
                          But I have an Alesis Trigger I/o And MegaDrum. I really am not Impressed with the megadrum at all. For the price of megadrum you can buy Alesis Trigger I/o. Trust me i spent the money I know!
                          Can you elaborate on that? Why are You unhappy with Megadrum? What does it not have that Alesis I/O has?

                          /Kari
                          MegaDrum trigger to midi x 1,
                          BFD 2,
                          13" DIY snare,10", 12" and 14" DIY toms,
                          VH-11 Hi-Hat x 1, Pearl RH-2000 Remote Hi-Hat,
                          Hart ECII-12HHB Hi-Hat x 1,
                          CY-12R/C Dual-Trigger Cymbal Pad x 1, CY-14C V-Cymbal Crash x 1,
                          Hart ECII-16RB Ride x 1,
                          13" and 14" Kit-Toys china,
                          10" Kit-Toys splash,
                          KD-8 Kick Trigger Pad x 1,
                          Trick Pro1-V double bass pedal,
                          MDS-6C Drum Stand x 1
                          sigpic
                          And ppl remember listen to Strapping Young Lad!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dbeaston View Post
                            Now I don't mean to disrespect anyone on their inventions. But I have an Alesis Trigger I/o And MegaDrum. I really am not Impressed with the megadrum at all. For the price of megadrum you can buy Alesis Trigger I/o. Trust me i spent the money I know!
                            Sorry but Megadrum is the best MIDI Trigger I've ever seen !

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                            • #15
                              Of course people will have different experiences with a full on DIY drum brain.

                              Some don't suck at soldering and some do. I belong to the latter so the Alesis is looking tempting. But I am wary of it since I never fully understood the piezo/piezo or piezo/switch inputs. Which can you split with a y-cable to get two single trigger toms?

                              Previously I just bought a TD-6V and soldered me some piezo triggers and split the two tom-inputs with a y-cable and they just worked, thankfully - giving me a total of 12 inputs.

                              I won't survive with only 10 inputs with the Alesis Trigger I/O. The Megadrum has freakin' 20 inputs!

                              Also I have a vague memory that the Trigger I/O sucked at something compared to Roland. Any ideas what?

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