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Which size piezo's for different sized drums?

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  • Which size piezo's for different sized drums?

    Hey guys..

    2nd thread now, and I'm already planning a DIY project haha..vdrums really are addictive!

    I plan to convert a 10" (two toms), 12" (snare and floor tom), and 14" tom (floor tom and kick drum).. yet I don't know which sized piezo's to use for each.. do you need different sizes for different sized drums?

    I only plan on making the snare dual-zone, so rim piezo's for the toms aren't need..

    I've sourced a supplier of roland-type cones and piezo's who ships to Australia at $7 a cone/piezo, with $10.50 postage.. fair bit cheaper than buyin a new PD125!! haha

    Thanks for your help guys!

    Jay.

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    As far as i know the piezo size doent really matter, most people use 35 or 27mm piezos.

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    • #3
      I use 27mm's on all my drums larger than 12". As far as smaller drums and half shell conversions the size does not seem to matter. When you do full shell conversions I found the bigger the piezo the more they tend to flex with vibrations caused by the resonate head. You should be good to go with 27 to 35 mm for most conversions.

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      • #4
        Hey Jay - yet another antipodean. Roland uses 27mm for main triggers and 35mm for rims. I'm using the same on all my DIYs, but will try a 35mm on the kick I've just built.
        . digitalDrummer
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        • #5
          Originally posted by jayrc33 View Post
          Hey guys..

          2nd thread now, and I'm already planning a DIY project haha..vdrums really are addictive!

          I plan to convert a 10" (two toms), 12" (snare and floor tom), and 14" tom (floor tom and kick drum).. yet I don't know which sized piezo's to use for each.. do you need different sizes for different sized drums?

          I only plan on making the snare dual-zone, so rim piezo's for the toms aren't need..

          I've sourced a supplier of roland-type cones and piezo's who ships to Australia at $7 a cone/piezo, with $10.50 postage.. fair bit cheaper than buyin a new PD125!! haha

          Thanks for your help guys!

          Jay.
          Where did you get those cones at?
          I used 27's on all my drums and they work great. I would like to see if a 35 would trigger better.
          Good luck with your kit.
          Vinny
          Roland TD-8 Mod, DIY burgandy Mapex drums 12" snare, 8" 10" and 12" rack toms, 14" rack floor tom, 22" Bass drum , 3 cy-15r cymbals, one for the ride 2 for the crashes and cy-14c for hi hat.

          Songs i've recorded using my old TD-7

          My drum kit

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          • #6
            Thanks for your input guys, I've ordered 27mm triggers for the heads and a 35mm for the rim..

            Yet I just got my TD8 and found out it has rim trigger support with piezo/switch pads.. i want them! haha..*I'll have to search this forum for how to make piezo/switch pads now..

            vjboc.. I've just ordered the triggers from a guy under the email [email protected]
            dAnyone heard of his triggers' reliability?

            Thanks alot guys,
            Jay

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jayrc33 View Post
              I'll have to search this forum for how to make piezo/switch pads now..Jay
              Search for Keith Raper circuit. Easy to build and you'll find all the parts at **** Smith. PM me for part numbers if you get stuck.
              . digitalDrummer
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              • #8
                This is my first time posting here. My name is Rob(the bird)Canary. I have been playing drums for a living since 1987. I have shared the stage with many great musicians over the years. I delved into e-drums back in 1996 and have not turned back to acoustic since. I play mirror chrome converted Pearl Exports on a custom Gibraltar road rack. 8", 10", 12", 22x18 kick along with the HART dynamics pro snare. When it comes to heads, nothing beats the KS Magnum mesh heads. Internal cross beams fitted with 27mm transducers on the toms and 35mm on the kick. I use the HART Ecymbal II HH and Pintech PC series(clear) for my ride, crashes and F/X zone. I use two modules, the Roland TD8 and the Alesis DM5 on my kit at the moment "only" for more stereo outputs to the main mixer being the TD8 has only two stereo pairs and(keep this in mind guys when purchasing a module and expect to have full mixing capabilities with a live PA mix)I need six outputs. Kick, Snare, Toms L & R, Cymbals L & R. It does make a world of differnce panning toms and cymbals to a slight degree in the FOH mix that makes your presence HUGE! I'm into the "chest pounding" kick and the "head splitting" snare. It is of the most importance to use compression around 4:1 ratio and fairly quick attack and release for your snare and kick. It's my job performing live weekly and booked solid into 2009 so I do know what I say and can possibly assist some of you guys out there when it comes to the e-drumming and live performance setup, use etc. Nothing sounds better to the drummer than in ear monitors(once you become use to them you'll love it forever) I use the Sure wired body pack(wireless is a waste of money for a drummer lol) along with the "E4 in ears" they are their second to best E5 but find them to be bulky around the ears and carry a set of their E3's for backups. To close my response to this thread, it truly does not make a difference what size transducer is used to trigger your module as long as you configure your module settings to perform efficiently with it's signal. If you are expecting big tone from your voices and need it "HOT" use bigger ones. Depends on your heads and the amount of shock they are going to receive under normal playing. Hope some of my post helps. Feel free to ask me any questions. I may be able to help with my experience. [url]www.driverband.net
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