DIY Edrum links outside the US. Here's the place for your links, materials, etc.

[Bencthemusicman]

Right, so i keep struggling to find materials mentioned on here because the majority seem to be from shops based in the US.

this thread is for myself and anyone else in the UK to share the suppliers and materials they have used or found.

Cones -

i so far have just gone for the sandblock type cone. i got mine from wilkinsons but i think you can get them a little cheaper from markets etc.. (there is a seller on ebay that does cones but i haven't tried them yet, UFO or something like that)

Mesh Heads -

Tdrum, i have three of these and i'm pleased with them only had a month so can't comment on durability.
http://www.thomann.de/gb/tdrum_th12.htm (it will be shipped from Germany but checkout the full website, lots of edrum stuff and cheap so you can make it worthwhile)

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Arcade-Music - arcade music usually have some, i have one. its a bit thicker than the Tdrum ones but only time will tell if that better.

Rim Silencer -

i found some rubber U-Channel on ebay but the seller no longer uses ebay. i have messaged him about the product and he would still be happy for custom so give him a shout andy-whitlock@tiscali.co.uk and quote 'BenCTheMusicMan from ebay put me onto you about your rubber U-Channel' (or something similar, and no i'm not on commission)

bits and bobs, screws, bolts, rubber washers - wilkinsons


Thats all i can think of for now so i best get back to work!

[daveybabes]

Hi

Hiya

I just ordered 2 Piezo Transducers from Maplins, they heave some bit and pieces that may come in handy.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...=piezo&doy=2m4

Can i ask about your conversion project? what toms/shell ya using etc ?

Davev

[Bencthemusicman]

doh, yeah i don't know how i missed off maplins.

get all the electricals you need although can be pricey.

the wires on the piezos from maplins seem to come off very easily (50% of the stock seems to be broken when i go)


i got some really crappy drums off a mate (cheap japanese none branded type) and cut them in half, painted etc...

i've then used L brackets to fix a wooden X bar and mounted the Piezo on. really simple stuff. when i can be bothered i will be changing to those quick shelf bracket things for my cross member (more rigid) or something similar (like Beatniks classic design)

i have a dixon drum rack that i got from the same friend as the toms then i bought some extra arms etc from thomann whilsed i got my mesh heads

Heres a quick vid of my kit, the white head is a DIY before i replaced it with the one off ebay. (please note this was recorded as soon as i'd got the drums going so they work a lot better now)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdLonR8JD1Q

[gjmunro]

UK Materials & Suppliers

Great Idea!

If you are looking for foam to line your DIY drum cases:-
http://www.foamforcomfort.co.uk/pages/packing.html

If you want to order "303" polish for your rubber cymbals:-
http://www.thepolishingcompany.com/303productrange.html

I have used both of these companies and they are very reliable.

[daveybabes]

Hi

A lot of people tend to recommend using hot glue to support the solder points on Piezos as they break easily.

Your drums look good, fantastic job saved a lot of £££ too.

PS ArmorAll Protectant at £3.99 from Halfords is fantastic for rubber cymbals, puts a fade protective anti static layer on and makes em look great. I did originally buy it for the car tyres and couple of days ago tried it on my Roland CY8 and 12 and it was wow!

[Bencthemusicman]

Thanks!

armorall great stuff, thats the one i'm strugling on at the mo, you may have noticed the temporary mouse mat hanging off my ride

[spanner]

DRUMTEC GERMANY FOR RIM Guards
ROLAND UK FOR CONES, PIEZO'S AND CIRCUIT BOARDS
ALSO YOU CAN GET ALL INTERNAL ELEMENTS OF CYMBALS AND THESE WORK AS DESIGNED.
I have found to my cost that a lot of time and money can be wasted searching for something that is available from the maker. The amount of money I wasetd on making rim gaurd, cones and badly soldered piezo'sfrom Maplins
For DIY cymbals go to a carpet supplier and buy the clear plastic carpet runners used in hallways or for underneath office chairs. This is the best dampner available for the DIYer. I bought tons of stuff from PVC suppliers which was rubbish for cymbals.

However, it has made an excellent gimp suit which my girlfriend likes a lot

[mystic fred]

the Maplin piezos invariably have to be resoldered, also the hot glue is a great tip. i also found out this week not to place double sided foam pads underneath the piezos as it makes them much too sensitive, use double sided thin sticky tape (sellotape/scotch tape) - a strip with another small square placed on top in the centre works fine

i also experimented with UFO cones, and sensitivity can be reduced further if necessary by removing some material from the centre of the bottom / base.

[Bencthemusicman]

Spanner.. do you have a link for cones etc.. from Roland uk? i can't see them on their site.

also can we have some photo's. would be nice to see everyones kits built from materials that are available to me!

i'll definitely try the glue gun tip, i bought one to make DIY heads but that failed because of lack of a strong enough material (mine lasted about 3 weeks)

[steve.pie]

Spanner..... do you have a link for gimp suit foto's ??....... seriously though, speak to Steve Barrett at Roland HQ in Swansea.... he's the man to sort you out with spares.

[spanner]

Yep, steve is the man for spares. Very nice guy. Phone him is best option

[Bencthemusicman]

thanks, i think i will do. be nice to have some decent piezos.

anyone know anybody in the UK that build shells? wood or acrylic?

mystic fred, can you expand on the double sided tape thing, i've not heard that.

[Swaledale]

Spanner..... do you have a link for gimp suit foto's ??....... seriously though, speak to Steve Barrett at Roland HQ in Swansea.... he's the man to sort you out with spares.

Spares for the gimp suit?

[Squirty]

UK materials/Suppliers links etc..

I noticed today that Wilko have some Foam Rockets for £2 which have a nice foam cone on top which may be a cheap source of cones for UK diy edrummers, the cones can be a variety of colours but they do black ones they are a similar size to other cones, they are maybe a little softer than the Rollys but may be worth a try.
I am going to get some for myself anyway for testing.

[daveybabes]

Hiya

Hiya

So where abouts are the foam cones situated in wilko's, kids toy section?

I spose putting foam under the piezo basically makes it more a part of the cone, maybe Fred means it needs a solid base (thin tape) so it can displace vibes and hits better?

I'm building a snare soon and i'm gonna use double sided thin tape under piezo and on top (size of ceramic on top) and a mate gave me a ufo cone, will use ally crossbar initially, but later may try and make a metal spider (lightweight but sturdy) with an adjustable platform for head piezo and centre mounted rim piezo on spider.

ANYONE have a source for rim guards? did u use fuel hose cut in half and if so what size hose?

I ordered this off Ebay for £4 - gonna try it will let yer know - may be too small on radius ...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...#37;3DWatching

If you are making a drum with open base like the Roland PD's etc Colin at Jobeky Drums has the perfect rubber for covering where you cut your drum in half (depending on thickness) just google Jobeky drums, send him an email and say ya a friend of Dave's from Stoke (Uk)