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    Howdy. I've been digging through old threads on FSR controller builds, and I'd like to hear from those of you who continue to use such a controller, especially one that rests under the pedal.

    A bit of context - I use a VH-11 with a TD17 module, and while this particular combination is fine, the hat is less than optimal when paired with Superior Drummer 3. Here too, I've been digging through old threads and have learned that plenty of folks have wrestled with the inherent problems of the floating hat when used with a VST.

    What I'd love to know, then, is how those of you using a DIY FSR controller feel that it performs. Does it rival the better Roland pedals like the FD-7? Do you get a nice, full range of motion? How about stability - is it the sort of thing you're constantly troubleshooting?

    I'm also curious about the build for a pedal like the FD-7 attached to a hi-hat stand. I know some of you have done this as well, and I have the same questions as above. Are you happy with it?

    It seems that I could solve my problem with a fixed hat and pedal combo, but I'd rather explore one of these DIY solutions so as to maintain a moving hat. If indeed you all are happy with the performance of one of these builds and would like to make and sell me one, feel free to let me know that as well, perhaps via PM.

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    I made my own controller FSR based after I saw the Sylv1co post and it worked very well, used with the VH12 configuration on my TD12. IMO using it directly below the cymbal with a hole in it is a better option than adding stuff below the pedal. I saw recently someone posting a DIY project with a 3dprinted controller made that way. I heard about a FSR model, maybe the Interlink 404 made with a hole in it but I have no idea if it works well as the 406.
    Currently I'm not using it anymore because another project I'm following, but I think I'll go back on FSR in future for an idea I have.
    Can't say anything about commercial stuff, I have only my own DIY kit.
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    • #3
      That was me that printed the hi hat controller. It works flawlessly so far. Even though I mangled the fsr a bit while drilling a hole in it. Does anyone know how to get a clean hole?

      I also like the in between the hat much more than under the pedal. It is much more responsive and quick when doing splashed and foot splashed are much more realistic and easy to achieve. I could never get the foot splash right with the under the pedal controller.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Aka Wayne View Post
        I mangled the fsr a bit while drilling a hole in it. Does anyone know how to get a clean hole?
        Me too, but I suppose a good way should be to sandwich it between 2 rigid blocks, say of some flat wood blocked with a pair of tongs.
        This is the one I used, protected with a shrinkable tube and pins soldered for easy connections.

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        • #5
          Interesting stuff. Thanks for the info!
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          • #6
            BTW there is also a FSR based 3dprinted controller here for those interested
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            • #7
              I'm still looking around at these options. My problem is this: I don't know how to wire an FSR sensor to a TSR jack. Maybe that fact suggests that I'm way out of my depth here, and that could indeed be the case, but I'd welcome any basic instructions. Good news is that I'm working with a Roland TD-17, which I understand to be more simple overall when compared to, say, the Yamaha schematic. Still, I can't seem to put the pieces together in my mind, which means I don't know what pieces I'd need to make this all work.

              Please forgive my rudimentary or even ignorant question, and feel free to bail me out by wiring an FSR to a TSR jack and selling it to me.
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              • #8
                FSR Hi Hat works about the same as the FD-7 IMO. A lot really depends on setting things up correctly in the module. HH control is pretty basic, it is just a resistance range the module works from (except the 2Box Drumit Five which is VERY different). So if the range is within the parameters the module expects it will work. I've been using my own FSR DIY controller under the pedal of my HH stand for over a year with the Mimic and it works great, no huge difference though from the PDP/FD(7) stand I used before. Unlike some posts I read, (obviously results will vary), I get excellent performance under the pedal, smooth open to closed transitions, foot chick, foot splash, etc. I am very satisfied with the performance. Maybe not obvious to everyone, but the shape and density of the foam is important and will change the performance greatly .... For example even a very soft "Quick Recovery Foam" like I would use in my typical trigger foam would be too dense and would really screw up the response. A softer foam was the ticket for this one. I really only built it because I wanted to use a new Pearl eliminator "Redline" Hi Hat stand. The build is very basic/simple. The FSR gets wired to a TRS jack (or you could use TS for Roland modules) Tip and Sleeve are the terminals you connect to and it doesn't matter which post goes to which. I did my mock-up as I was considerring building them to add to my choices at my Stealthdrums.com site. But after the mock-up I decided to just keep it and use it and not offer those for sale. It isn't a one size fits all really because the foam I used would kind of have to be custom cut to different widths or shapes depending on the HH stand pedal. I setup my foam so the pedal rests "almost" touching the foam with HH open. Here are a couple pics. The other reason I decided not to build those is Alternative Mode already has a nice under the pedal FSR controller that is reasonably priced: http://<a href="https://www.alternat...gers/ehat/</a> My FSR controller is just a jack in a project box, FSR on top of the box with a wedge of pillow foam that pushes down pretty evenly when the pedal is depressed. To install to the HH stand I used Industrial Velcro on the bottom of the box and HH pedal base of the stand. I normally steer clear of DIY threads these days as more than once I have seen my own parts or ideas or those of others in DIY threads end up being built and sold by the "next" internet edrum company, just the way it is! ..... but hope it helps. J
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