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  • Idea for self calibrating internal trigger setup.

    Not sure how well this would work or if it would work at all its just an idea that popped in my head so i thought i would share it. Start with a normal crossbar setup but under the platform connecting the trigger setup to the bar put springs in so that the cone is always being pushed up against the inside of the drum head.

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  • #2
    I think that would just eat the foam cone quickly, and the foam will change shape just to accommodate the extra pressure.

    but, hey, try it out and prove me wrong! This is what DIY is about!
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    • #3
      I guess the added wear on the cone from adding a spring depends a lot on the strength of said spring - it doesn't have to be a super duty coil suspension spring
      Regardless, isn't this more or less solved by the cone being made of foam in the first place? My diy snare still works great after 2 years and I haven't had "cone-issues" - besides with my first prototype snare based on a homemade cone made from a (heavily used) kitchen sponge and the buzzer from a broken smoke detector..
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      • #4
        I think that would create lots of mistriggers or double triggers.
        But anyway, should be tried.
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        • #5
          If the spring is hard it will press the cone into the head too much, if it's soft it will bounce and cause double triggering. That's my prediction anyway.
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          • #6
            I'm thinking make the spring loose but the cone raised up 1 or so centimetres above the rim so the head pushes it down a bit that way it won't bounce around but won't push too hard either ,just enough so it always makes contact with the head,maybe even use multiple springs around the platform for more stability idk yet its still just a wacky idea at this point. I think if it fails it would still be easy to just do a normal crossbar setup with the parts so i think i'll give it a try when i get around to converting my 13inch tom.
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            • #7
              This solution depends on many factors. Maybe there's a sweet spot.
              You can't know if you don't try.
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              • #8
                Having built a lot of crossbars, I think you're way over-complicating the whole thing. One thing to consider, if it doesn't initially shake itself apart, is the spring/suspension mechanicals would have to function incredibly smoothly and not rattle, jam or have any friction when it moves or it is going to cause false triggering. Making a simple cross-bar that fits is much easier, no?

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                • #9
                  Maybe use foam instead of a spring.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mbejackson View Post
                    Having built a lot of crossbars, I think you're way over-complicating the whole thing. One thing to consider, if it doesn't initially shake itself apart, is the spring/suspension mechanicals would have to function incredibly smoothly and not rattle, jam or have any friction when it moves or it is going to cause false triggering. Making a simple cross-bar that fits is much easier, no?
                    You are probably right.
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                    • #11
                      What about using Sorbothane?



                      Always wanted to try myself, if only to isolate the piezos better.
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                      • #12
                        The rebound is way to slow to work for anything related to triggering
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