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  • taming the shoebox venue

    I have a small place that I transformed into a restaurant/diner. It's basically a shoebox with brick walls and acoustic tiles on ceiling.

    I have decided to do a music event on Saturday evenings to help the local talent. So far, we had 2 nights: a five-member band and solo guitar and vocals performer.

    It's already starting to pick up, and the place was full last weekend (meaning about 50 to 60 people in the place).

    The only bad thing is of course the acoustic, specifically the bass. It reverbs off the brick walls like crazy. I remembered seeing a post about bass traps. Now since I have a lot of people sitting or standing, the low area is ok. I need to deal with the higher area and I had an idea.... wondering if that would work.

    This is an old picture taken when I was first designing the place ... but it gives a good idea of what it looks like. I drew the pyramid boxes on the wall as bass traps. They would be a frame, wrapped with heavy cloth and filled with soft foam.

    Would it help control the bouncing bass frequency or would it just be a waste of time?

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    Fill them with Owen's Corning 703 compressed fiberglass and they will be much more effective. Check a website called gearslutz.com for articles on bass trapping.

    Peter

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    • #3
      Thanks Peter,

      No compressed fiberglass isolation around here (winter's average about 15C), only eps boards or... bubble wrap!

      But I will check out the gearslutz site. Thanks for the link.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by perceval View Post
        Thanks Peter,

        No compressed fiberglass isolation around here (winter's average about 15C), only eps boards or... bubble wrap!

        But I will check out the gearslutz site. Thanks for the link.
        JimFiore may be a good resource to ask too. He just built a studio not to long ago. Oh and maybe Hercules too.
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        • #5
          You might try creating deadening panels using 1x3 wood frames with carpet remnants tacked to them, or other heavy textile items such as tapestries, runners, area rugs, and the like. When I sound-conditioned my studio, I found this to be quite effective. The compressed fiberglass panels are by far simpler to put up (once you have wrapped them in burlap), but apparently not available in your locale. The idea is to introduce a material that will scatter the sound waves so they won't reflect as coherent sound waves. Corners are most important to cover, since they send sound back in the same direction it came from. Also, the walls at either end need to be conditioned to avoid slap-back.
          Id rather be told the ugly truth than handed a pretty lie.

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          • #6
            Thanks...

            From my bit of background in home theater systems, a lively front and a dead back... sounds like a plan.

            I think I'll start with the back of the room and move up slowly. I've been reading on Gearslutz.com but there isn't any "rock wool" around here either.... wondering if beaded white EPS boards in a frame could do the trick.... or maybe shredded pieces of EPS in that frame ...
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