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  • Hart Pro Snare with TD-12

    Hi all,

    Recently purchased a TD-12KX used after receiving some advice from you guys here. The only thing slightly irritating me is the fact that my snare is a PD-105, and size-wise feels relatively small compared to my acoustic kit snare.

    I'm considering purchasing a Hart Pro Snare, but have read some reviews of it having triggering issues. Was wondering whether this is with the specific modules tested, was hoping for feedback from TD-12 users?

    By the way, for argument's sake, how does the Hart Pro Snare stack up to a PD-120, or a PD-125 even?

    Look forward to hearing your replies!

    Thanks,
    Marios

  • #2
    I'm running a Hart Pro Snare with my TD12 and I think it's truly amazing - I found it better than my pd125.

    I've never had any issues with it and it triggers superbly.


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    • #3
      I have no experience with the Hart...I play a Pintech 14" Acoustech snare which feels great as I play acoustics quite regularly as well.

      Digital Drummer magazine did an awesome snare comparo in the last issue (including Hart) check it out

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      • #4
        Hi both, thanks for your quick responses both appreciated!

        I have checked out the "Snare Shootout" (November 2011 issue if anyone else is interested).

        The thing is 14" sounds wayyy to big for me, plus the Hart snare is gorgeous (to be completely honest). I have checked out PD-125 and PD-120 prices and they seem way too expensive in my opinion.

        Anyone care to argue against the Hart pro feel free to do so before i order hehe

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        • #5
          No argument here, I considered it myself after getting the Pintech
          Heard great things from many users and it does look beautiful and shiny! yeah I would like a 'slightly' smaller snare as well, more things to go wrong on a 'big' e-snare (one thing being 12 x tension lugs either side!) Many others though have had no issue with larger bought/DIY snares


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          • #6
            I've been using my Hart Pro snare with a TD-12 for several years now. Not sure what issues you have heard about, but I haven't experienced any problems of any kind.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by zeroqbd View Post
              Anyone care to argue against the Hart pro feel free to do so before i order hehe
              Well, I also have a Hart Pro Snare, which I love. But, there is an issue that you should know about. The Hart Magnum mesh head is known to stretch over time. You can tighten the head, but the hoop of the head will eventually touch the lugs and cause mis-triggering. I've owned two different Hart Pro snares and have experienced them same issue with each. The only solution I've found is to replace the head with a different brand. But, since the snare is 13", you cannot buy a Roland head for it. This leaves you with other single ply heads which are worse than the Hart Magnum. I eventually found a 2-ply head in Germany that works great. But, it is not easy to get in the states.

              Hart now has a new head which is supposed to be better -- the Maxxum. I have no experience with the Maxxum, so I can't tell you if it solves the stretching problem. So, maybe someone with Maxxum experience will speak up. Only one other issue that I can think of -- it is HEAVY. This is not an issue for me. In fact, I see it as a plus because it makes it very solid. But it might be an issue for some, so just thought I should mention it.

              Anyway, other than the head stretching issue, I love my Hart snare. Not only is it the perfect size for me, but it triggers great on all modules that I have owned -- TD-8, TD-12, TD-20, TD-20x. The extra plus is that it is beautiful. So, now that I have solved the head stretching issue, the snare is perfect.

              -SD-

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SiliconDrummer View Post
                Well, I also have a Hart Pro Snare, which I love. But, there is an issue that you should know about. The Hart Magnum mesh head is known to stretch over time. You can tighten the head, but the hoop of the head will eventually touch the lugs and cause mis-triggering. I've owned two different Hart Pro snares and have experienced them same issue with each. The only solution I've found is to replace the head with a different brand. But, since the snare is 13", you cannot buy a Roland head for it. This leaves you with other single ply heads which are worse than the Hart Magnum. I eventually found a 2-ply head in Germany that works great. But, it is not easy to get in the states.

                Hart now has a new head which is supposed to be better -- the Maxxum. I have no experience with the Maxxum, so I can't tell you if it solves the stretching problem. So, maybe someone with Maxxum experience will speak up. Only one other issue that I can think of -- it is HEAVY. This is not an issue for me. In fact, I see it as a plus because it makes it very solid. But it might be an issue for some, so just thought I should mention it.

                Anyway, other than the head stretching issue, I love my Hart snare. Not only is it the perfect size for me, but it triggers great on all modules that I have owned -- TD-8, TD-12, TD-20, TD-20x. The extra plus is that it is beautiful. So, now that I have solved the head stretching issue, the snare is perfect.

                -SD-
                Yep the Hart is 13" not 14" and the newer Maxxums are great. No stretching for the one I used for months whereas the Magnums needed tweaking every week or so....and I cinch them down pretty tight. Has a nice "crisp" feel to it too compared to Magnum. More like mylar IMHO. If you buy the HartPro "new" it will probly have a Maxxum on it...but you could call and ask for sure. Even if you bought it second hand, the Magnum would suffice until you wanted to replace it. Hart Heads are bomb proof, never had to replace one because of wear. Then when you buy the Maxxum to replace it....it's only a couple $ more than the Magnum anyway. With all that said.....I've NEVER used the Hart Pro Snare....just the heads.
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                • #9
                  Hart Snares are awesome. I agree about the heads, but that is so easily solved.
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                  • #10
                    I have Accupads but the triggering mechanism, ie "the innards" are identical to the Pro.

                    Rock solid. Far less suscetible to the dreaded hot spot than the PD-125 as well.

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                    • #11
                      Wow thank you all for the vast number of responses, you have all been extremely helpful! Thats why i liked these forums, even the tiny details i never thought of asking myself have been answered here

                      Btw, i actually did UTFSE before posting this and it appears that there's a lot of "triggering issue" threads, but that appeared to be mainly on older roland modules. I'm glad i no longer have this concern, and look forward to puttin up a review one day giving feedback

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